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Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: I have a question somewhere. A previous speaker - Deputy Kelly, I think - asked Mr. Breen about mediation and he did not get to finish. What is happening? Is the HSE offering mediation to people? If so, in what way is it being offered? How is the mediation initiated? When it is decided that the HSE wants to contact person X, is a letter written?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: I am not being smart now.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: Is an email sent? How is somebody contacted and offered mediation?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: How many did Mr. Breen say have been offered mediation?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: What is the total number, leaving urgency out of it, that Mr. Breen would consider eligible for mediation?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: We are looking at four out of how many? In what number of cases has the HSE sought to offer mediation?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: I know this is hard to quantify, but how is that going? Are people up for it? Are these four engaging?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: The letters have been sent and have been accepted, but there has not actually been formal engagement on a one-to-one basis yet, so the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: Does Mr. Breen think this will work out? Does he think it is a process that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: That is grand.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: If I may, it was only three years. I asked-----

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: Excuse me now. I am not sure whether it was this committee or the health committee. I cannot remember. Why did we get those years? As I understand it, they were not part of the audit. Maybe they were.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: It seemed wrong that we were given those years and not all of the years we asked for ages ago.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: Mr. Connaghan referenced searchable data and spreadsheets and the technicalities of searching same. I do not think he is correct because an electronic spreadsheet is easily searchable. It is possible to convert documents to searchable format. I do not buy the idea that there is some complexity involved in searching documents. As far as I am concerned the issue here is that somebody made a...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: I would argue that the barrier was a human barrier rather than a technical one. On the laboratory data, Mr. McCallion said that drawing out historical data is a complex process. Deputy Jonathan O'Brien asked Mr. McCallion about the results from the laboratories for 2013-2014, 2014-2015 and 2015-2016. I have a photograph of the results on my phone which is dated 9 May. I do not know on...

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: Mr. McCallion said that the State no longer has a contract with some of the laboratories. Am I correct that what he is saying that the State employed a laboratory from which data was not received and collected and installed on our own systems, scanned or otherwise?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: I do not believe what Mr. McCallion is saying because we already have data detailing in simple format the percentage accuracy of the laboratories over three years. To my mind, there should be similar data available for other years.

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: In respect of the three years for which we were given data, who decided they were the years for which we should be given data? Why do we get those three years?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: What does "easy" mean? Did the service have them or were they in the laboratory? What does Mr. McCallion mean by "easy"?

Public Accounts Committee: Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed) (14 Jun 2018)

Kate O'Connell: I cannot appreciate it. I actually cannot appreciate it.

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