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Financial Resolutions 2021 - Financial Resolution No. 2: General (Resumed) (14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: For this budget, the public wanted to see urgency from the Government to address the crisis in housing, the rental crisis, the crisis in the health service and the cost of living. Unfortunately, as has been said, never has so much been spent and so little achieved. This is a great budget for landlords, speculators and developers. A major issue in the housing sector is vacant land...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: All are very welcome to the meeting. No apologies have been received but Deputy Sherlock may be delayed by other duties in the Dáil Chamber. The Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. Seamus McCarthy, is a permanent witness. He is attending the meeting remotely. I ask that members and all attendees exercise personal responsibility in protecting themselves and others from the risk of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: This morning, we engage with witnesses from the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications. After lunch, we will consider correspondence and other business of the committee. The engagement with the witnesses will focus on the appropriation account for Vote 29 and chapter 9 of the Comptroller and Auditor General's accounts re remediation of landfill sites. We are joined...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I now call Mr. Griffin, who has five minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. Griffin. The lead speaker is Deputy Carroll MacNeill, who has 15 minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Mulligan has lost his sound.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: We would appreciate it if Mr. Griffin could come back to the committee with the information.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy Verona Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I will allow the Deputy back in shortly, if possible. If not, we will get the information in writing. I call Deputy Alan Dillon.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I will allow the Deputy to come back in. I must try to stick to the ten minutes to allow all members to contribute. Deputy McAuliffe has not joined us yet and Deputy Sherlock is held up in the Chamber. I call Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I am sorry, Deputy. I will break now if people want to get refreshments.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: We will resume in approximately five minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: The next committee member to speak is Deputy Sherlock but he has not joined us yet so we will move on to Deputy Colm Burke.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: Is the Deputy's question for Mr. Griffin?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I have some questions on the national broadband plan. Back in June, in reply to a parliamentary question, it was stated that 4,000 homes out of the 115,000 originally targeted for this year were competed. On 15 September there were 23,000, according to the CEO of National Broadband Ireland. There are now 27,000. We have clarified this today. The target is 60,000 so there are 33,000...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: We are down to half the target. My point is that half the year was not missed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: NBI-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: I saw NBI vans going around in the springtime. There was some level of operation going on. I want to ask about the penalties. This is something that we need to nail down today. On 1 June, I asked the Minister of State, Deputy Ossian Smyth, in the Dáil about this. He said that as he understood it, there were none in the current contract. The reply to a parliamentary question I put...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: The only penalty financially is that the company does not get paid.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
Chapter 9 - Remediation of Landfill Sites
(14 Oct 2021)

Brian Stanley: If a carpenter doing work in a house starts and does a bit of it and then goes away and comes back, and keeps coming and going over a period of time so that two weeks' work takes the better part of a year, that carpenter will not get paid until the job is finished. It is common enough and I have a little bit of experience of it. That carpenter is happy enough to have held the job and the...

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