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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Who informed you of that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Who made up the board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Who makes up the project board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Before getting to that, someone had to decide on the issue. The Department was 30% down on funding and the project would not be realised. Is that correct? Who in the Department looked at the building because there was no money to complete it? Who made the decision not to cut anywhere else other than the building and to demolish the building?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Who takes the decision about the money the Department receives, in terms of the Department of Finance giving it funding for the year and the Accounting Officer deciding that because the funding has been cut by 30%, he will have to cut somewhere else?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Was there no place Mr. Purcell could have got money-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: -----to move on the development of the building? What did the Department of Finance say to the Department of Justice and Equality about it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: What did the Department think of the Department of Justice and Equality writing off €4 million, €3 million or whatever?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Was the Department of Finance not concerned that another Department was about to write off €3 million? Did that not concern the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Does Mr. Gallagher's Department hold the purse?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: The Department of Justice and Equality is about to get rid of a €3 million project but his Department is not aware of it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Did Mr. Purcell have to notify the Department of Finance that he was going to do this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: The Deputy wants the project done very quickly in order to prepare his press release.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: They are relevant in the context of the recommendations that we make arising from this discussion. I now call Deputy Deasy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Does Mr. Purcell accept the recommendations from the Comptroller and Auditor General on the building project?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Does he accept them all fully?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: On the other matter of the lottery and the charities, I understand Mr. Purcell will get a note for the committee, perhaps from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and his own Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Will he please include in that note information on whether the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, the Department of Finance or the Department of Justice and Equality were lobbied? Can he answer that question now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Were officials within the Department of Justice and Equality dealing with this matter lobbied?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: On the scheme and what was happening.

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