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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That is okay. We will be able to cover more points as we come to each member. Mr Kingston may conclude.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Very much so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: This is a very sensitive topic. I am conscious that Mr. Kingston has much to contribute, but I want to be able to bring in the members. Mr. Kingston will be able to respond to each of the members and add more in response to each of them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: To clarify, we did get a redacted copy of the Lacey report this morning, so it has been circulated to the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We should remember we are here for pre-legislative scrutiny of the proposed Bill. References to other areas are not relevant to what we are trying to do. I know Senator Craughwell might be trying to broaden the discussion, but we are trying to analyse how good this Bill is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The Senator's time has concluded but he can make a final point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I am not, but somebody might-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Senator. That concludes his remarks. He might bring that matter up in another context. Our next contributor is Deputy Ó Murchú. His slot was earlier but he can come in now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Or totally stand-alone, perhaps.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Deputy Carey for his in-depth analysis of the general scheme. I call Deputy Mattie McGrath.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Deputy for saying that but I will not hold my breath.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The committee and I have protocols.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I have been advised to mention to the Deputy, and this applies to all members, that we are dealing with the pre-legislative scrutiny of future Bills and we do not want to go back too far on other issues. I understand the point the Deputy is trying to make.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I accept that point and the Deputy's bona fides. We are trying to discuss the pre-legislative scrutiny on this particular legislation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I know what the Deputy is trying to say.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I appreciate the point the Deputy is trying to make but we need to be careful in how we tackle it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We are probably a little past that. We are sitting in public. The Minister was before the committee last week. Mr. Kingston and Mr. McCarthy are before the committee this week.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I am making this point on the behalf of the Senator as much as on my behalf. We cannot say we are refusing to do it because we are already a couple of meetings into the process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: General Scheme of the Merchant Shipping (Investigation of Marine Accidents) Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We could refuse in the sense of saying we are not happy with-----

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