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Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: We do not vote on it, it is just that-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: No, that is not true. We do not vote on our consideration. We do not vote.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I will. It states: No decisions are taken by the committee in relation to the consideration of Estimates. The committee is only empowered to consider the Estimates and cannot alter, amend or vote on them. The committee must send a message to the Dáil when it has completed its consideration of the Estimates and it cannot decide not to do this. Under Standing Order 87 the message must...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Yes.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: We can sit here all night.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Sorry Deputy, but in a way that is what you are saying to me as Chairman.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I have told the Deputy that the Minister will give members the information. He is saying that he wishes to sit here until such time as the Minister gives us that information.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I am sorry but what are we supposed to do?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I am sorry Minister and we do not need to get into a row but to be honest, the Deputy is being highly pedantic on this issue.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: It must have been-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Basically, the Deputy is saying members cannot trust the Minister to give information to the sub-committee.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Is that okay?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: I thank the Deputy. Deputy McDonald wishes to make a point.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: We will not need to have a vote on the Vote and the Supplementary Estimates. I thank the Minister and his officials for assisting the committee on its consideration of the Supplementary Estimates. The sub-committee will write to the Minister with a list of what we would like in this regard.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary)
(9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: If there is anything else, we will revert to the Minister. This concludes the select committee's consideration of Supplementary Estimates for Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances; and Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service. In accordance with Standing Order 87, the clerk to the committee will now convey a message to that effect to the Clerk of the Dáil. Under Standing Order...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Message to Dáil (9 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil: The Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimates for public services for the year ending 31 December 2014: Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances; and Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service.

Written Answers — Department of Social Protection: Invalidity Pension Appeals (11 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: 42. To ask the Minister for Social Protection when a determination will be made in an appeal for invalidity benefit in respect of a person (details supplied) in County Cork; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47533/14]

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Rights of the Child (17 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: 113. To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality her views on concerns that the Children and Family Relationships Bill 2014 commodifies children, undermines the right of a child to a mother and father whenever possible, and deliberately disrupts the natural ties between parents and children; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [48564/14]

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (17 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: Thank you, Mr. Nyberg, for your opening address. Before I invite the two lead speakers this morning I will set the scene following Mr. Nyberg's concluding comments. A key finding of your report was that a banking solvency crisis was seen for far too long as a liquidity crisis. Will you expand on what this means, bearing in mind we have a public audience which may not be as informed about...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (17 Dec 2014)

Ciarán Lynch: In layman's terms, a liquidity crisis is when a bank needs cash flow and an insolvency crisis is when the bank cannot meet its liabilities. To move that question on, in September 2008, the guarantee took place in this country. Having Mr. Nyberg's assessment of the situation - and his commission was very much concerned with examining the issue of liquidity and insolvency in the Irish banks -...

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