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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Can we agree to note the accounts and statements? Agreed. The accounts and financial statements will be published as part of our minutes. As usual, we will request an explanation for any significant non-compliant procurement of more than €500,000 or delays in laying the accounts before the House. The Tusla one will need particular scrutiny. We move on to correspondence. As...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: We can request that information. Next is No. 717.B from Professor Andrew Deeks, president of UCD, dated 7 July, providing information requested by the committee. This has come up before and relates to the partnership between UCD and Tullow Oil for the provision of a third level course. UCD states that the partnership and the master of science programme in petroleum geoscience which was...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: The next correspondence is No. 718 from Mr. John Hogan, Secretary General at the Department of Finance.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Go ahead please.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: That will be noted. Many members will agree with the Deputy on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Is the Deputy concerned that he who pays the piper calls the tune?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Does she want to outline her proposals to the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: We can do that. We could also use the option of writing to the HEA on that. If that is agreed we will do that. The Comptroller and Auditor General has indicated that he wishes to come in.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: We will request that. The next correspondence is No. 718 from Mr. John Hogan, Secretary General at the Department of Finance, dated 7 July 2021, providing an update requested by the committee on the eighth progress update report on the special liquidation of the Irish Bank Resolution Corporation, IBRC. The Secretary General stated that the timeline for completion of the liquidation has...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: I suppose that it is part of the cleaning-up exercise after the madness of the 2000s. In his letter, the Secretary General, Mr. John Hogan, stated that "the purpose of extending the timeline for completion of the liquidation is to maximise the ultimate return for the State in light of the impact of COVID-19 on the liquidation process, and this will be subject to ongoing review." The...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: The Department will call the shots on this anyway.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy Carthy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Does the Comptroller and Auditor General wish to come in on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Given the scale of the fees, involving figures of between €320 million and €327 million, maybe we should ask for an account of them, including in respect of the period of time and what the money has been spent on. We should also ask about the potential for increased liability regarding fees the longer this goes on. That would be worth probing with the Department. I am aware...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: The next item of correspondence is No. 720B, from Dr. Deirdre Keyes, chief executive officer of Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board, dated 30 June 2021 and providing information requested by the committee on non-compliant procurement of over €1.4 million. In its 2019 financial statement, the committee requested explanations from all bodies audited by the Comptroller and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: We have to be cautious about that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Over the past year, we have looked at the statements from a number of education and training boards. In fairness, most of them came back with measures taken to improve matters and explanations in respect of procurement where they had limited options, such as where there may have been a single supplier of very specialised stuff. This particular one seems to have much history attached to it....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: I skipped over one item. I apologise. No. 723B is from the Secretary General of the Department of Justice dated 8 July 2021 providing the terms of reference of an independent review of voluntary mess committees, which was undertaken at the behest of this committee. The terms of reference state that it is intended that the review will be completed by the end of the year. It is proposed...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: Nos. 726B and 743B, dated 8 July and 14 July, respectively, are from Professor Kerstin Mey of University of Limerick, who was before the committee on 17 June, and are arising from the committee's request for information during that meeting. No. 726B specifically addresses the committee's request for a copy of the report published by Ms Mairéad McKenna in regard to protective...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (21 Sep 2021)

Brian Stanley: The question of identifying them may arise but I will ask the clerk to examine that to see if we can get their permission to use that information. Is that okay?

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