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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is not the first or last page.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Would this not take work?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am sorry for harping on about this and I will not discuss it again, but the document reads: "The Board incurred material expenditure where the relevant goods and services had not been procured by way of a competitive process." How can there be a clear audit opinion if that is the case?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The arithmetic adds up to the totals and they concur. However,-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Right, but were there competitive tendering breaches?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Was it just a case of, for example, me getting Deputy Cassells to do a job because I knew him, he was local or I liked his price?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am sorry for going on but I promise that this will be my last question.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is any sanction applicable, applied or even stated as a sanction that ought to be applied?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The supplier did not get a chance.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Our main focus is not on A or B getting the job-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: -----or having the lowest price. It is more about not wanting C to sue because it did not get an opportunity to tender.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is not about the lowest price. It is about sueability after the fact.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Economically advantageous-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In the event of us not having competitive processes, our concern as the State is not that we have to pay the lowest price. Deputy Cassells did the job, he charged X and that is good enough for me. I am not worried about what he got for doing the job. I am more concerned about Deputy Kelly suing me because Deputy Cassells got the job without there being an opportunity to compete. Is that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I apologise for going on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Would it be okay between now and next Thursday if we emailed some suggestions about the programme as it stands? It might inform our deliberations then.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: There are, sorry. I also have one to raise.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Just on that and not to be delaying the meeting, but-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: -----that would be a matter of major concern. I presume we are talking about people who may be in the care of nursing homes and so on. There is a suggestion of issues or weaknesses around the personal property of patients. That is one of the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Were we getting more detail on that?

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