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Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Ms Daly Lynam is very welcome.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Serious issues have been raised with the Comptroller and Auditor General's audit. Is that right? Matters have been raised. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: That audit is on hold for the moment because an independent investigation is ongoing. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: We are here to ensure that public money is spent properly and, as best we can with our foolish questions, we try to hold witnesses to account. We look at governance, procedures and so on and we are always learning. The finance officer might be the best person to answer my questions in a second, but I will ask the vice chairman a number of questions first. Did Mr. Ruttle discuss with the...

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I ask Mr. Ruttle to listen to my question. Did he discuss it with the board? Was his presence before the Committee of Public Accounts an item on the agenda?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Was it an item on the agenda?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: It was not an item on the agenda.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Why was that? Why was such a serious matter not an item on the agenda?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good, but why was it not put down as an item? Mr. Ruttle is before the Committee of Public Accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I will speak to the vice chairman, if that is okay, for a moment. I will come to other witnesses in a second. Who made the decision not to put that serious item down on the agenda?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: When did Mr. Ruttle become aware that he had to appear here today?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: When?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Two weeks, five weeks, four weeks - when?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: This is a serious matter. I am not going into the independent investigation - I respect what is happening - but there is a board here, and it is the board I want to talk to. The board has oversight of the CEO and all the processes. When the Comptroller and Auditor General's audit has been held up, parked, there is an independent investigation of taxpayers' money. What does the board know...

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: That is okay. I am not going to compromise anything. I am asking the vice chairman a very factual question. Why was it not down as an item on the agenda to show to the board and discuss with it?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Who made the decision not to put it down as an item on the agenda?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Who runs the agenda?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good, and Mr. Ruttle is the main person.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: Good. Did someone ask Mr. Ruttle whether KWETB's appearance before the Committee of Public Accounts should go down on the agenda? Did Mr. Ruttle say to the person who types it up that it should have been an item on an agenda?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Catherine Connolly: I am referring just to Mr. Ruttle. Did he ask for it to go down as an item on an agenda?

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