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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: I am sorry, Senator, you can come in again after I make my point. The reality is that people have exceptional needs all of the time and, as public representatives, we deal with such people regularly. I am currently advising a constituent whose home was not flooded but who cannot afford to fill the oil tank to provide heat for her children. In my opinion, that person has an exceptional need...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: It is a very high threshold.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: The scheme is discretionary and circumstances vary. In some cases, the damage is minor. My point is that €70,000 is a generous threshold compared to most other hardship schemes. That is all I am saying. I am just making a point, with which Members do not have to agree.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: I accept all of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Yes, but a millionaire is obviously in a very different situation-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Yes, but if one is earning €200,000 per year-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Should there be a means test or not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: More generous?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: I understand all of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Yes, but it needs to be balanced, which was why I made my earlier point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: We cannot have a debate if people are not allowed to say certain things-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Of course, it is. We are absolutely on the same page about that. There is no one here who does not have absolute sympathy for the people whose houses have been flooded.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Just so we are clear on that. I was just making the point that the threshold is quite generous compared to other schemes and that the majority of people in the country earn less than the limit. That is a fact.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: She did. She said it was tapered above €70,000.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: She did.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Will the Senator please speak through the Chair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Ms Faughnan said “tapered”.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: Ms Faughnan said it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: Humanitarian Assistance for Household Flooding: Discussion (13 Jan 2016)

Joanna Tuffy: It was definitely mentioned because I heard it.

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