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Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: The Senators should speak through the Chair.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: One voice.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: The Senator should stick to the Bill. The Senator is not debating the Bill at all. This is starting to look like a debating society in Trinity College or somewhere.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I am trying to bring people back to the legislation.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: That is not part of the Bill. I will have to draw a line and we will move on.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Has Senator Gilroy finished his contribution?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: We will put this to the Minister.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Please restrain-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: We love hearing the contributions of Senator Norris, but in his own time please. This is Senator O'Keeffe's time.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I call Susan O'Keeffe without interruption.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: A very capable Senator-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: -----and a very capable broadcaster and journalist. I wish her well and happy Christmas to her.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Senator O'Keeffe is making her point.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Does Senator O'Sullivan wish to respond?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I remind people that we are being watched by a big audience at the moment. Someone said to me the Chair was made for me, I should go to the Lower House and try the Chair because I was more qualified for that as well. I thank whoever made that unknown request. I do not get requests like that. The Minister has inherited an unholy mess from the previous Minister. It is quite clear that the...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: They will never pay and they will ensure that this never becomes workable. The Government has spent €530 million on meters, which I think are quite inadequate. I understand from a report I received today that the last few digits on the meters in Roscommon are unreadable. That may not be true. There is nobody here from Irish Water. I wonder whether somebody from Irish Water should...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: It just strikes me. A board member or some of the officials-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: They came into the Oireachtas to speak to Members of the House and points were put to them. It would be a great opportunity for them to be here on a Friday night to listen to the concerns of Members of the Oireachtas.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: That is very kind of you but I doubt it very much. The reality is that this will probably become law but it is imposing real hardship on people who just cannot afford it. As I said this morning, it is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Senator Norris is very helpful. It is lovely to hear his voice. I also want clarification regarding houses that are not occupied. There is no real clarity in this Bill about what happens if a house is unoccupied. Does a person pay a standing charge for that house? Is there a small charge for that house? That has not been clarified. What about the question of tenants?

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