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Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Fine Gael, like Pontius Pilate, washed its hands of the entire situation and is stating it has nothing to do with the execution.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: They are charmed.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Senator Keane would not be sitting here if the people in her constituency voted for her in the by-election. That is for sure. Do not let me turn on her. I wish her well because she is on the same panel has me so I have a vested interest in her situation.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I was hoping she would be elected to get her off the panel because she had received a lot of votes.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: However, that is unlikely to happen.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I refer to the need to invest €530 million in metering. What is ironic is that one is supposed to read the meters.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: It would take one minute to read a meter. One has to get down on one's knees with a screwdriver and sticks one's head down a hole in the ground into which one cannot see to find out how much one is using. To my mind, the place to have the meter is in the front hall, with a little electronic screen indicating one has used X quantity of water. Instead, the meters have been put in holes in...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Fair dues to the Minister of State who looked after him very well. I congratulate him.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Second Stage (Resumed) (18 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I am sorry, but in the circumstances, I really deserve more time because I have a lot more to say. Incidentally, I am involved in a little dispute with Veolia which is trying to charge me for water for an office that has no water supply. I can tell the Minister of State that when running a business, one must pay for water and it is very expensive. However, Fianna Fáil will be voting...

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I extend Christmas wishes to the Cathaoirleach, Leas-Chathaoirleach, leaders of parties, all Members, our Clerk and Deputy Clerk and the excellent stenographers and sound staff who keep the records so diligently and are so efficient in the work they do to compile the record of the proceedings of the House, which is invaluable. I also extend best wishes to the camera operators who provide the...

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: As a member of the Cabinet, he is entitled to uphold and vindicate the Constitution as it stands, not to comment otherwise.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: The Minister should not, knowing the details of the case, try to influence the courts in their decision next Tuesday. I am not doing that, but am recording the exact position. I have no change of mind on the decision I took as the sole Member of the House in the Dáil in 1983. I stand by that decision which has led to the safe delivery of many Irish citizens who have contributed to...

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: What about under cost-selling?

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: The problem is the flogging of drink in big supermarkets which is destroying the whole industry.

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: The Minister certainly got one.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I welcome the Minister and his officials to the House. The fact that we have an opportunity to discuss this issue is because of the Irish people who voted to retain the Upper House. Without their support, this issue would not be debated here today. It is an important point and the 60 Members of the House have a unique opportunity to put forward ideas to the Minister. He is very attentive...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: The company is extracting water from the land and property. Is that in public ownership?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: I understand the consequences.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Terry Leyden: The kernel of the situation is the overall question of charging, the willingness of people to pay and the efforts by People Before Profit and anti-government types of all sorts suggesting we should pay for nothing and do nothing. I remember the same people suggesting that there should be no charge for the collection of waste in Dublin. They said they would go to jail and never pay for the...

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