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Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: I wish to come back in if I can to discuss the Civil Service.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: I want to look at appendix 1, at which Deputy Donohoe was looking earlier. Could I get an explanation of some of the terms used initially. In the column entitled decision taken in review, does the phrase "approved for payment to new beneficiaries" mean that it maintains for those new people? Does the phrase "allowances subject to review or modification" mean that it is part of the 88 being...

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: Where I see that description, I can take it that it is intended that this allowance or amount will move into pay eventually. Are any of the 88 on this list the ones about which the Minister talked?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: In respect of the service office supervisory role, Mr. Watt spoke earlier about certain allowances being paid, say, the principal's allowance in schools, for what would effectively be a higher salary grade and they should have done that. Is that what this allowance is? Is it one of those?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: The second sentence under the description states: "This allowance is for acting as head services officer in the absence of that officer."

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: There is an officer but-----

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: With regard to the first part of the explanation, to which I referred, there is a head services officer but this person is getting paid the allowance to act in that role because the actual officer is not present.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: What does that mean? Does it mean the actual officer is out sick?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: Are those responsibilities delegated on a permanent basis or just when the head is out?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: There would be a head services officer in the main building and somebody acting as a deputy head in the other building. Is that how it works?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: The driving allowance is paid to services officers engaged in driving duties on a daily or full-time basis. Is that because officers drive as part of their job?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: Are they hired to be drivers?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: The documentation states: "Half of this allowance is payable to staff assigned to driving duties but who are not required to drive on a daily basis." What does "half of this allowance" mean?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: Is it for people who are not required to drive daily?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: They are getting paid an allowance because they may have to drive in the course of their working week but it is not certain that they will have to drive in the course of the working week. Is the allowance to be included as core pay by increasing the salary?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: I understand that. If half the allowance of those who may, but who are not necessarily, required to drive in a given week or month is to be moved into core pay, what is the position?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: The driving allowance was paid originally in 1977. It was reviewed with effect from 1 March 1991. Does that mean it was then no longer paid to new entrants?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: When would that allowance last have been approved for a member of the Civil Service?

Public Accounts Committee: Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, Houses of the Oireachtas Commission - Review of Allowances (23 Oct 2012)

Eoghan Murphy: Is that 31 January 2012?

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