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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Is the witness aware of any situations where a president of an institute would be a director or shareholder in research companies based in the institution for which they are responsible for governance?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: It could have been before the person was president-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I will make it very simple. Is the witness aware of any circumstances where there are co-location companies based in research and development institutes in any part of the country where the president of the same institute has a shareholding or is a director in some of these companies and multiple companies? Is the witness personally aware of any situations where that is the case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I did not mention that. I am asking if the witness is aware of any such circumstances.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I am not referring at all to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I am not asking the witness to respond to any of that. I am trying to understand where there are demarcation lines-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Before the witness does that I wish to put something to him. In a response to a parliamentary question which asked whether there were any conflicts of interest, the witness referred to policies and procedures and said that his officials had been made aware that there was an internal review under way in one institution with a view to confirming that the institution's interest had been...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I will direct my questions to Mr. Mannion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Can I return to it later because I have other questions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: To which institute is the witness referring?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: This is the one that is under review.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Who is carrying out the review?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: What is the nature of the review? What is it examining?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Would the Comptroller and Auditor General have any role in respect of oversight or auditing here? If a payment was made from any of these spin-off companies to an institute, would that be included in its annual accounts? Has the Comptroller and Auditor General looked at this issue in general terms?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: That is a product of having no Sinn Féin Deputies in the Chamber; the whole thing collapses.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: My question is for Mr. Mannion because-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I would prefer to put them to Mr. Mannion. Mr. Ó Foghlú has said it might be difficult for him to answer some of the questions himself. My first question is in regard to policy on intellectual property. Mr. Ó Foghlú may be able to answer this himself. Research funding agencies such as EU funding, Enterprise Ireland, Science Foundation and so on that publicly fund...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I accept that it is international practice. I can accept the logic because one wants to encourage innovation, research, etc. The Secretary General has said that there is a national guideline, namely, the national protocol, and that each of the institutes would have their own guidelines. Who in the institutes would, in the first instance, draw up the guidelines and, in the second instance,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: In terms of the chain of command, who follows the governing body and the president? Would a dean or head of research play a role?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Is that not part of the problem? Various institutes have different policies and procedures. When I researched this matter I discovered big variances in guidelines between institutes in terms of their robustness.

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