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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Yes. I also looked at Fonthill, Liffey Valley and various other locations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Yes, but that is where many of the cars are, which is obviously were there will be problems.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I will ask a linked question to that. How many cars are in existence out there that Mr. Walsh knows need an NCT and do not have a valid NCT?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Surely, under the law, people are supposed to get tested before their certificate expires. Is Mr. Walsh telling me that at the moment, there are 355,000 cars most likely being driven around with a certificate that has expired?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: That is the figure I am asking about.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: The questing I am asking is how many cars are out there with a certificate that has expired?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I just mean expired. They are-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Their certificates expired on 29 September or 8 October and their owners have not yet presented for a new test. The RSA's database must tell us how many cars are in existence. I accept that some of them could be off the road or whatever. Obviously, if a person is scrapping them and so on, he or she would do all the documentation for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Those on the waiting list do not have appointment dates. They are waiting to get an appointment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I want to nail this down, if I can. If I ring this morning and say that I need a test, they will tell me that they will put me on the priority waiting list. At that point, I do not have a test date. I am just on a list, waiting to be given a test date.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I accept that but there are 31,000 people, or thereabouts, who have rung up and asked for a test and have not yet been given a date for one. There is another group of people who have been allocated a test but who have not taken it yet. Then there is another group of people who have not even looked for a test and their certificate has expired. How many people are in the last group?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Yes, but I am interested in the people who are driving around now without a certificate, not the people who will need a test in three weeks' time or three months' time. How many cars are on the road with an expired certificate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I am not interested in the 90-days group.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: One is totally legal if one is taking a test today and one's certificate expires tomorrow. It is not a problem driving the vehicle today. However, if the certificate expired yesterday, it is legally a problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: We are talking about 700,000 tests, or thereabouts, per year. Is that about 14,000 or 15,000 per week?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: So the NCT is doing about 30,000 tests per week, or thereabouts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: If there is a backlog of around 390,000 tests, some of which are within the 90 days-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: There is a certain cohort of people who just forget about their test, ignore it or do not do it. I would like to get a handle on how many cars are out there that are two, three, four, five or six years beyond their certificate expiry date. How many people are driving cars with certificates that have expired who have not, to date, sought a test?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: That would be useful to know because they are most likely to be the problem cars. Lots of people are doing their best. Some people let it slip, they get an email and they forget about it and I understand that but it is important to know the volume of cars on the road with out-of-date certificates for which no test is booked. Has the NCT considered 24-hour testing or starting earlier in the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Engagement with Road Safety Authority (12 Oct 2022)

Gerry Horkan: They will be fined when they do turn up but it is a waste of resources.

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