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Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: The time is up, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy has gone over time. I will let her back in. The Deputy was trying to get a straight answer and used up more than six minutes trying to get an answer to the question. It is unsatisfactory that at the end of the six minutes, I am no clearer and neither is the Deputy or the committee on the answer to the question. It is not satisfactory. The Deputy wants to know whether the...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Briefly.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy tried very hard to get an answer to the question. We need a straight answer to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. Lemass for that information.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Colm Burke was due to be the second speaker but was tied up in parliamentary duties. He has joined us and he has ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is asking a question regarding the new cost rental model project in her constituency. It is a pilot project. Surely one of the representatives of the Department can answer her question as to who will own those units. Is that the question she is asking?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Can any of the officials answer that question?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: We have been joined by Deputy Munster, who was attending to other parliamentary duties.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Deputy. Her time is up.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: No. Time is against us.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: The answer should be "Yes" or "No" because time is against us.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: A brief reply.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I have some questions and I ask Mr. Doyle to keep his replies brief. I apologise if we sometimes cut across each other but we are trying to use technology and we are also caught with time limits arising from Covid-19 precautions. I will speak to the timeline. I have made it my business to speak with officials, and particularly practitioners such as engineers etc. on the ground, over...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Please do.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: That is helpful. I wish to revert briefly to the issue of the long-term cost. I was there in the days when rent supplements were first introduced, going back a good few years now. It was a temporary measure to tide people over until they got more permanent accommodation. Then we moved on to RAS and HAP. The spend is now in the region of €1 billion per year. That €1 billion...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: I am saying I have heard that before. I am not being dismissive, but real work needs to be done in that area. There are options that need to be tapped into. In the area of the income thresholds for social housing, in counties Laois and Offaly, the threshold is €480 for a single applicant. For a couple, the threshold is €503. I can rattle off the numbers up the scale. If...

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: They need to be increased. Can we have a response before the summer break, please?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government (resumed) (3 Jun 2021)

Brian Stanley: Deputy Hourigan and Deputy Catherine Murphy have indicated they want to contribute again. Deputy Murphy can ask one question as Deputy Hourigan is waiting patiently for a reply.

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