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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It has to be done through the process. It is not permitted to plant without a licence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I am correct in what I said. How many of those applications have been approved?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Is that included in the dashboard we get?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It is included in the overall figure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Am I correct that since the new scheme in September, the licences the Department has given out are for about 1,900 ha?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: When we were in the audiovisual room for a meeting last summer, the Department told us there was something like 7,000 ha kicking around for four or five years with regard to licences that were being dealt with. We are talking about another 2,000 ha here. The fact is that since January, 392 ha have been planted. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The same as every other year when we saw the dashboard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: What does Mr. Delany think will be planted this year? From 2020 to the end of last year, the Department has not achieved one year’s worth of the targets. That is a damning statement for any Department. One year is 8,000 ha and it has not achieved that from 2020 to 2024. I accept that may be for different reasons, for example, new legislation was brought in and so on. However, down...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: What does the Department expect?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Would Mr. Gleeson be worried at the moment? This committee has dealt with the issue and we have watched it every year. It is past April and we have gone into May. There is probably another month of planting as people will not be planting in June, July or August. Is Mr Gleeson worried that only 392 ha are coming in at the moment? Is he worried we would not increase on last year?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: You might, but these are the figures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I will tell Mr. Gleeson why the Department is not getting enough applicants in. From 2018, 2019 or 2020, farmers were waiting and waiting and they went into GLAS and other schemes because they could see money coming and did not have to wait for the postman to come with something. I understand that some of that was due to challenges and so on. Mr. Gleeson spoke about a review. I did a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: No, 60%-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: There was another question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have a couple more questions. The witness kept saying "the Minister" and "the Minister" but every Department tells the Minister what A, B and C is. It is not a Minister who goes into the Department and states we are going to do 8,000 ha next year. It is the information the officials put together and they advise. Is that not right?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: All right. There is one thing in your forestry policy guides that probably never came up to the witnesses previously. We are seeing more and more of it, even on plantations, that is, ESB wires. Why is there not a policy set? Would it be fair to say that after 30 years, a spruce tree will grow to 75 ft, probably some of them are around that, or maybe 80 ft? Why is there not a 30 m setback...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Hedgerows are sitting on the land.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The same as trees.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forest Strategy Implementation Plan: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (8 May 2024)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Does the witness understand what I am saying?

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