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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I fully accept all of this. I am here as Cathaoirleach of the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: Yes, but we are trying to put in place legislation that will make the appeals process transparent and independent. I fully accept the issue but I do not know how it can be incorporated into what we are trying to do here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I am repeating myself again. I do not disagree with one thing the witnesses are saying but the purpose of today's meeting is to make sure the legislation on the appeals body is as we want it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: The Minister will come before the committee next Thursday morning. I welcome the suggestions from today's meeting and very pointed amendments on exactly what we want. I have been listening closely today. The independence of the membership of the board is critical. The timeframe of the appeal is an issue that has been constantly raised. A very good point was also made about the definition...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: No, but we can propose what we want included.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: Yes. The meeting is to put flesh on the bones of the legislation. The next public meeting of the committee will take place at 5.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 28 February, when the committee will continue its examination of compliance with the nitrates directive and the implications for Ireland.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I thank Mr. Gorman.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I thank Mr. Fitzgerald. The Minister will come before the committee next Thursday morning to discuss the Bill. It will proceed at a fair pace. We have been waiting for it for a long time, and it is to be hoped it will become legislation sooner rather than later. I am not trying to be picky with any submission, but I have concerns about the proposal that if there was no representative at...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I am just saying to be careful what you wish for in legislation because there will be days where a farmer, for his or her own reason, will not be able to attend an appeal. I have concerns in that regard. I would like there to be two attempts made to have a meeting go ahead without the concerned parties being present. I have attended a lot of appeals and have received telephone calls from...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Agriculture Appeals (Amendment) Bill 2024: Discussion (22 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I am not arguing that point at all. It is the farmer who pays the bill. We will have the Minister before the committee next week. We want to get the legislation right so that we have a fair, transparent and independent appeals body. This is what we all want so that when farmers takes an appeal, they will have confidence they are getting a fair, independent and transparent hearing. This is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: Before we begin, I remind members to switch off their mobile phones. Witnesses giving evidence from within the parliamentary precincts are protected by absolute privilege in respect of evidence they give to the committee. This means that a witness has a full defence against any defamation action for anything said at a committee meeting. However, witnesses are expected not to abuse this...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I am sorry Mr. Carr but we are going to have to suspend the meeting because a vote has been called in the Dáil Chamber. We will resume as soon as we can. My apologies.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: Again, I am sorry for the interruption.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: I thank Mr. Carr. I now invite Mr. Feeney to make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: We will now go to members, who get ten minutes each. If people wish to come in a second time, they may do so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: The Senator does not often pay much heed to it but go on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: We will speak to the derogation, though.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: Stop. Behave.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

Jackie Cahill: We will start with the representatives from ICOS.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Compliance with the Nitrates Directive and Implications for Ireland: Discussion (Resumed) (28 Feb 2024)

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