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Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: So Mr. Tierney would be prepared to answer questions generally on the airwaves if he were asked.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I am just wondering. I just want to get it out there.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Good. I wish to ask about the tender process. Earlier we spoke about the three years. That tender was accepted three years ago, extended by the Minister for one year. How many of the goods and services tendered for by Irish Water were in that category?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: How many? Irish Water was spending various amounts of money here under lots. How many of those were new tenders, specifically relating to Irish Water and how many were drawn from a panel originally put in place by Bord Gáis?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Were most of them drawn from the panels or were they new tenders?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Could we have a breakdown of that as soon as possible, please?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: As time is pushing on, perhaps Mr. Barry can look for that information and we will revert to him. Does Irish Water have a list of assets equalling €50 million? It was stated that these were assets, not reports stuck on a shelf. How much is paperwork and how much is real assets?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: No, do not do that. Deputy O'Donnell is very technical and qualified. I am just a layman.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I am just trying to understand. If the witnesses are telling me that the €50 million that has been spent constitutes a list of assets, I do not care how they categorise them for the regulator at the moment. I just want the list of assets. If Irish Water has paid for a table, a chair, a computer or a piece of software, it must list the assets.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: That is grand. For my purpose, do not mind the regulator for now, just tell me what assets Irish Water has. Does it have ten computers and four pieces of software?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I want to find out how much of the €50 million is hard assets. I do not want it in accountancy terms. I want it in real, day-to-day language.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Grand. Give me their cost. The witnesses answered Deputy McDonald's question on brand development. If I looked at the messages that Irish Water sent out and saw €4 million for customer engagement and brand development, it would be a shocking figure.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Wait one minute, Mr. Tierney.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: The witnesses have explained it to Deputy McDonald, but it must be explained to the ordinary punter who is astonished at the level of spending on consultants, as much as the €6.2 million on due diligence. This is an extraordinary amount of money and needs to be explained. Could we please have a list of assets showing that Irish Water has purchased efficiently and cost effectively?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: If I made a claim in the House for leaflet dropping, there would be shock and awe. Some €4 million. I am only asking. I know that the witnesses have been present for a number of hours today and yesterday, but I just want a breakdown of the figures so that we can explain them to people.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Does the due diligence figure of €6.2 million include mapping the infrastructure?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: If Irish Water has carried out due diligence, is €11 billion the stated value of the infrastructure?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: How does Irish Water know that it is €11 billion? Did it do due diligence?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: In Irish Water's consultation with the Secretary General of the Department, did it at any stage talk to the Department's local government auditors?

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