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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: I have one or two questions. Members have been asking parliamentary questions on this issue and I received a response to one yesterday in which I was told I would be written to. I notice that going back to last February, the response to almost every question asked regarding the number of guns that have been stolen is that the Deputy will be written to. However, the Garda...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: I would also like a breakdown of the type of guns involved. A total of 355 guns were stolen in 2013. Were these primarily handguns, shotguns or rifles? How many of these were licensed weapons taken from individual homes? Earlier Mr. Healy stated 40 were stolen from one particular firearms dealer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: What is the recovery rate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: With regard to the issue raised by Deputy McFadden on forensics, do other jurisdictions carry out forensic tests of legally-held pistols and rifles so they have a record on file which can be checked? Mr. Healy stated this is not done here because of the cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: What is stopping this from happening?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: How much would it cost? Will Mr. Healy get this figure for us?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: Head 5 of the Bill discusses shotguns manufactured to hold more than five cartridges. These are in a magazine, which I assume slips into the gun. Are shotguns manufactured for three cartridges as Mr. Healy suggests? He stated a shotgun manufactured to hold more than three cartridges will be outlawed or banned. As a magazine is detachable is this an academic question?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: Does this de factomean all shotguns will be banned because they can be adapted very easily to hold a different magazine?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: We are speaking about licensed shotguns. I have a problem with the word "manufactured". If a shotgun must be restricted to not more than three cartridges and somebody has a magazine which holds five or more cartridges, he or she is breaking the law. We may need to re-examine the word "manufactured". One could argue all of the shotguns are manufactured to hold more than three cartridges....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: Communication on this has not been very good.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: It could be argued that people have an emotional attachment to their weapons. They like handling them and shooting them. The concern seems to be with security, transport and keeping them in private homes. I spent quite a number of years with the Army Reserve, which was known as the FCA, so I have a familiarity with many of these weapons and heavier weapons also. Could an argument be made...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: Even there security concerns and issues exist. Have guns which are no longer legal in Ireland been surrendered to the Army?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: Of course. Are the guns surrendered to the Garda Síochána disposed of or destroyed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: Are guns still being taken in and destroyed by the Garda Síochána?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: This is a very serious issue and people are concerned about it. I take the point made by Ms Walsh that detailed consultation and discussion will take place after submissions are given to the committee and to the Department and the Minister after the end of January. It is a very serious matter and we all want to have the country as safe as we can. Does Ms Walsh wish to comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: I note in previous years a round table forum of all interested parties was brought together. Is that what will happen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Firearms Licences: Working Group on the Review of Firearms Licensing (17 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: That makes sense. I thank the witnesses for coming before the committee today and for giving so much of their time and expertise to this very important issue. We will respond to the Minister's request for our views and engage when the proposed legislation comes before us. We will engage with other stakeholders with an interest in this area in January. I wish the witnesses, committee...

Fourth Report of the Constitutional Convention on the Dáil Electoral System: Statements (18 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: This is an interesting debate. I agree that it is a pity it is taking place at the close of session when there are few people around. I was not, unfortunately, a member of the convention but I took an interest in the debate and on the recommendations arising out of it. Like some of my colleagues, I come from a rural constituency. While many colleagues from the urban constituencies are...

Topical Issue Debate: Schools Building Projects Administration (18 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: I thank the Office of the Ceann Comhairle for allowing me to raise this matter and the Minister of State for being here. I noticed there were announcements this morning of new schools, new builds, extensions and so on and that the schools to which I am referring this evening are part of that. When the rail link to Midleton was reopened a number of years ago, one of the conditions was that...

Topical Issue Debate: Schools Building Projects Administration (18 Dec 2014)

David Stanton: I asked a series of questions pertaining to next September, the urgency of temporary accommodation and what will happen to the additional students due to enroll in 2015. Perhaps the Minister of State should visit the sites because they are already cramped. Currently St. Aloysius is the only secondary level school in Carrigtwohill, . It is an excellent school but it is all-girls and all of...

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