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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Heading east, is the number 16 to Ballinteer a 24-hour route?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Is there anything east of Rathfarnham and that number 15 route?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: It does. The last Luas tram is at 12:17 a.m. or something.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: The last tram leaves at 12:41 a.m. from St. Stephen's Green. Do not worry, I have been on it and I will use it again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Yes, but they are quite limited. There are none for my area. There is one for Dundrum.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: There is nothing for Goatstown, unless the NTA is introducing one. There was one, the 44 route, but it vanished a long time ago. On the airport link, when will we be able to get the MetroLink to Dublin Airport?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I know. What is the timeline for when we think people will actually get on and off trains and metros to the airport?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Nobody is watching. It is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Somewhere between the window of 2031 to 2034, passengers will be able to get on and off a metro at Dublin Airport.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I remember former Deputy Seamus Brennan proposed a busway on the Luas corridor in 1987. I was at the opening of the Luas in 2004. I get the point but I would still like some level of window, even if it is a three-year window. I thank Mr. Creegan for that, as far as it goes. We talked about safe routes. There are so many housing estates where there is a wall or something that stops...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Is it something the NTA is encouraging local authorities to look at?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: People are often fearful of change but the minute it happens, they are delighted it has. They are still fearful of the change until it is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I saw a couple of them on the way, including Cabinteely today. I remember being a councillor at the opening of the old Harcourt Street line through to Leopardstown. It was said this would be the end of the world but it is now there. Fences are gone from places that had them and people are using the route, which is brilliant to see. It is so cheap, delivers such a good service, and people...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I accept the point. It is something worth looking at and continuing to look at. Factories, offices and schools appear. People in that demographic then realise that if they can get from place to place on a particular bus, they will not need to be driven to school, football, rugby or whatever it happens to be. The safety and security of public transport is quite a controversial issue. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: On the monitoring of incidents on public transport, does the NTA do that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: Has the number of incidents gone up or down?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: There is, therefore, passive surveillance where big crowds keep everyone-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I know members have been asked to focus on the metro and the green line but this issue is important.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: If we want to get footfall back on the services, this must be done. The Chair is getting very agitated at this stage, not that he ever gets agitated.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Greater Dublin Area Transport Strategy 2022-2042: National Transport Authority (28 Jun 2022)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Ms Graham and Mr. Creegan for their three hours of engagement this evening.

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