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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: It is fine. The Senator was not to know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: In the interests of helping the public to understand all of this, I will go back to when the officials presented the Bill to us. Goods was one heading. There were ten headings for services, with 150 subheadings, if memory serves me correctly. Is there anybody who could populate that for us as a committee? It would be very helpful for us to do that because it illustrates and speaks to the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: On the first question, does Mr. O'Brien think he could do this for us?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: Last, but by no means least, we have Senator Stephenson next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: Is there anything Mr. O'Brien did not get to say or does he wish to make any concluding remarks?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: We have made a couple of requests of Mr. O'Brien and IBEC. He might bear in mind the reporting deadlines we face. If he could get that information to us as quickly as possible, we would really appreciate it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: Thank you. As I said, Mr. O'Brien was the only solo witness we had and I thank him for his answers, presentation, frankness and overview of the challenges he sees. To all the members, the clerk, all the committee-related staff, the facilities people who kept us all on mic and live and for those watching at home - in their thousands no doubt - this meeting is now adjourned sine die.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: When American businesses raise with Mr. O'Brien's members why Ireland is doing this or that, would it assist companies if they had an answer, for example, if they were assisted by the Government in answering this? For example, this is not a boycott of Israeli goods; it is a boycott of goods emanating from the occupied territories. If services were included, it would not be a boycott of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: Tell us a brief story. Is Mr. O'Brien saying that some part of a team could be located somewhere and its members are not physically making a service but they are involved in the research and development of a service or something like that and suddenly, that counts?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: What about financial services?

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I thank the witnesses. They referred to the spend on security and defence. That is becoming an issue across committees. I ask that they look at this matter from the following perspective. Given a choice between spending on humanitarian inputs or local housing or on security and defence, there is not a democratically elected politician across the European Union who would not choose to the...

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I thank Ms McKenna. That is a powerful argument - the stability argument. It was not made in the witnesses' contribution, but it is noted.

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I wish to make four specific points. We are all influencers, so it is good to be provocative. We would not have got the answer about the price to be paid in terms of stability. I link that to my final point. There is something serious about that. Just to say, for people who are watching, I worked in overseas development as an adviser to a Minister way back when we careered towards up to...

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: That is very high level talk. By transactional, I hear “there has to be something in it for me to give you this." What are the practical realities of that?

Committee on European Union Affairs: Sustainable Development Goals: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: We provide money for building bridges and roads but European companies must be the ones that build them. That is essentially what Ms Cranfield is saying. What is wrong with that? Would Ms Cranfield prefer indigenous capacity to be built up?

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