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Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Did Mr. Poole not do a disclosure note for previous accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: In 2011 it was €51,000 and in 2012 it was €66,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Of course, in 2011, it was €11,000. Pardon me. In 2012 it was €66,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: So the 2013 payment was made to Mr. Frank Flannery directly.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: According to Ms Kerins's correspondence, Mr. Flannery took on this work on request. He was not lobbying for the work but took it on because he was asked to do so by Angela Kerins. Is that what happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: I am sure that all of the witnesses would appreciate that this was not at all appropriate, not least because Laragh Consulting was a busted flush by 2009. Am I right?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: It does not appear so. It was so.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: No, it is not a matter of appearances.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: It was dissolved in 2009. That is a statement of fact.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Would Mr. Kerr not categorise that lack of awareness as lax? That was lax, was it not?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: The company was not doing its due diligence or its homework.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: What did the auditors say when Rehab discovered that this company had been dissolved since 2009? How was that news broken to the auditors?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: On the issue of lobbying, it has come to my attention thatirelandfirst.ie, was set up in January 2011. It is a lobby group composed of the great and good of Irish society and is concerned with political reform. Rehab registered the domain nameirelandfirst.ie. Were the witnesses aware of that? It is a matter of public record that the person who registered the name on behalf of Rehab was a...

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Are any of the delegates aware of it?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was Mr. Poole aware that he is the person who registered the domain name irelandfirst.ieon behalf of the Rehab Group?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: Was the board aware of it?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: However, it did happen. I am not casting any aspersions on the motivations of those associated with irelandfirst.ie; I am sure they are entirely honourable. However, is it appropriate for the Rehab Group name to be associated with that group and its IT manager, Mr. Younger, to be taking the time and trouble to register the domain name?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: I put it to Mr. Kerr that the board absolutely should have known about it. I am conscious that I might be introducing new information of which the witnesses clearly were not aware. I am asking them to investigate this matter and give a report to the committee as to how it came to be.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: On the issue of pay, I was glad to hear Mr. Doyle say that it would be good practice in respect of benchmarking pay rates for Rehab's senior executives to look to his own sector rather than private industry.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Mary Lou McDonald: I hope the message has been received and understood that the world outside of Rehab does not believe that is the way to go.

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