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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Before we begin our meeting I ask members, witnesses and those in the Visitors Gallery to turn off their mobile phones because they interfere with the sound transmission of the meeting. During the meeting yesterday we got numerous calls from RTE asking us to ensure mobile phones are switched off because it had a huge amount of interference as members were speaking. I advise the witnesses...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Would Mr. Maloney make his opening statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Mr. Maloney referred to that a few times. I think it is unfair. We will conclude at that. Can we publish Mr. Maloney’s statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: I ask the Deputy to conclude.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: May I change tack a little bit? I am trying to get an idea of what was going on within the DDDA board and Mr. Maloney's staff at that time. We understand what has been happening to the property deal and the intricacies of the valuations and so on, but Mr. Maloney was responsible for the general budget and performance of the company. Looking back on the various reports we have had on the...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: There were a number of reports. For example, there is one headline that says that staff and executives spent €500,000 on DDDA credit cards. I am only asking because sometimes these reports can lack full information. I am not saying that this one does but I am just asking, because it was in the public domain, if Mr. Maloney can tell us what was happening there. It specifically...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: What years was Mr. Maloney there for?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: This information was obtained under FOI. It says clearly - and it was on Mr. Maloney's watch in 2007 - rugby World Cup and large quantities of wine purchased for board meetings. The analysis here is of credit card receipts that were sought under FOI, so there has to be some truth to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: All I can think of is that incorrect dates have been given, because I never sanctioned or approved - no one would have done it - a trip to Russia or the World Cup. I have never heard of that. I can only say that it must have occurred before I was there because it never happened on my watch. I had banned all first class flights and had not allowed any trips unless they were----- There was...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: What was the board's annual trip abroad?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Who decided?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Was Mr. Maloney on those trips?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Why did it happen?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: I am just trying to get the information because the public wants to know who authorised all of this and why was there such a lavish spend. It might inform us as to the culture that existed in that organisation relative to the property development, and the attitude of the board relative to the general activity in the docklands area. When I read the reports I have here, the statements would...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: None of this happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: I will send Mr. Maloney this information.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: It did appear in the public domain.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: It was based on information received from the Dublin Docklands Development Authority. I would like to see Mr. Maloney's comments on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: I appreciate it is a while ago, so therefore Mr. Maloney might need to reflect on it. However, it certainly gives the impression that there was a very lavish spend on all sorts of activities, including travel to various locations around the world to determine what best possible site they could model this development on.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Fine. I will submit the information to Mr. Maloney and will ask him to respond.

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