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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I will allow Deputy Smith a few extra seconds. When Mr. Shatters finishes his piece, I will come back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: Could Mr. Shatter let the Senator speak?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I will give a few seconds.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: We are coming to our last speaker.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I will allow Ms Hausdorff to answer at the end. The issue of consensus is interesting. There is not an antisemite in this room or in the Dáil, yet there sometimes appears to be what I will not describe with a term as strong as “consensus”. The Chair of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee seemed to reflect a consensus on where Ireland comes from in relation to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: Mr. Shatter, a former Member who is influential, has not found that view here. He has found a committee motivated by purely humanitarian motives. I cannot influence him in one way or the other but, as Chair the committee, I implore him to take that on board, if nothing else, when he leaves today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I thank Mr. Shatter. We are out of time. I am aware that it has been more difficult for our remote witnesses to get in, so I will give her one minute. I do not want her leaving this meeting feeling she was not heard. She has one minute if she wants to make some comments.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I thank the former Deputy, Mr. Shatter, Ms Natasha Hausdorff, Mr. Maurice Cohen and the Chief Rabbi for appearing before the committee today, for their valuable contributions and for the respectful manner in which the session was conducted. If there is something they did not get to say and they feel it is really important, they can submit it in writing to me, as Chair, or to the secretariat....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I call the committee to order. I am sorry for keeping the witnesses waiting. There was no disrespect intended. I advise members of the constitutional requirement that they must be physically present within the confines of the Leinster House complex in order to participate in public meetings. In this regard, I ask any members participating via MS Teams that, prior to making their...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: Absolutely, yes. We do not want to constrain the witnesses in any way. We want to make sure we get the maximum understanding.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: We are down to about three minutes speaking time for each member. The views of the witnesses are very well represented in the House generally, and in the committee. The witnesses are very welcome. I invite Ms Al Tamimi to make her opening statement. Mr. Meehan can then read his paragraph and then we will allow members to ask questions. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I appreciate that. I call Senator Higgins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I ask the Senator to be brief.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: We can do that by the following mechanism. I have a three-minute slot. Before that three-minute slot is Deputy Cathy Bennett, then Senator Patricia Stephenson. I will give Mr. Meehan my three minutes at the end if he wants to update us on the figures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: The witnesses have eight minutes to do with what they wish to make up for the opening statement piece. I am very grateful for that. Mr. Meehan wanted to update us on figures, so we might start with him and give him three minutes. He can get a lot said.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I thank Dr. John Reynolds, Ms Fatin Al Tamimi, Ms Marie Crawley and Mr. Éamonn Meehan, as well as those in the Visitors Gallery. I particularly wish to thank the support team, the secretariat and our legal advisers for their assistance in preparation for this twin session. The meeting is now adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday 16 July at 6.30 p.m. I hope witnesses feel they have been...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: The witnesses have given us some comfort timewise and I am very grateful for it. I ask Deputy O'Flynn to confirm he is on the premises.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I advise members of the constitutional requirements that they must be physically present within the confines of the Leinster House complex in order to participate in public meetings. I will not permit a member to participate where he or she is not adhering to this constitutional requirement. In this regard, I ask any member participating via MS Teams to confirm that he or she is on the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade: General Scheme of Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Prohibition of Importation of Goods) Bill 2025: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jul 2025)

John Lahart: I thank Mr. O'Brien. We are grateful for his attendance and for his statement. We will go to the floor now. The first speaker is Senator Higgins, who has seven minutes.

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