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Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I will put it another way. If it is what the Senators want, then I can take some time to provide them with long and deliberate answers to their questions before proceeding. I will happily co-operate.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I would happily do so.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I did not address the Lord Lucan issue, by the way.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: It is in the legislation.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I will be more than happy to provide the clarification the Senator seeks. I appreciate his offer to decide on whether to table amendments for Report Stage pending the clarification he receives. However, we should distinguish between clarification and wanting to seek further exemptions, as the Senator does. I will give the Senator all the clarification he wants but it does not mean the...

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: That is not what Senator Coffey said. His offer, which makes sense, is that the amendment not be pressed but resubmitted on Report Stage pending the clarifications I give.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: For Report Stage. Yes, that is correct.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: If we could finish Committee Stage now, I will obtain the clarifications for the Senators for Report Stage. That is the best way forward.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: If it is not habitable or occupied, it falls outside the scope of the levy.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: There are definitions given at the beginning of the legislation.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: The deliberations will include the Opposition.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I would be concerned if the message went out from this session that this is an anti-elderly tax of some sort; that is not what it is. The intent is to ensure those who own second properties, who are largely reasonably well off, pay a levy.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: In no way can this be considered a very onerous levy. The sum of €200 is quite modest. The reason behind it, which has been applauded on the Senator's side of the House, is to find a revenue stream for local authorities. We can all agree on that.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I will be very happy to accommodate Senators on the Opposition and Government sides by examining all the issues they raised. It is not just a case of my talking to my officials because I invite the various Senators who raised issues to submit to me their concerns in detail such that, by the time we reach Report Stage, they can be clarified and adequate answers can be provided. I am taking...

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: Senator Coffey has made very clear that his resubmission of amendments depends on the information he receives. I suggest that we go through the various amendments tabled on Committee Stage. There seem to be some concerns. I ask the Leader of the House whether the proposals I made are in order. If not, I should be let know.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: That was my understanding.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: That is what Senator Coffey has suggested.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I believed we had made some progress and that we were just about to make more by accepting the proposal made by Senator Coffey, that is, that we complete Committee Stage, after which there will be a meeting to go through the various concerns raised before we proceed to Report Stage. That was my clear understanding.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: Yes, that is fair enough. The Senator has that right in any case.

Seanad: Order of Business (Resumed) (1 Jul 2009)

John Gormley: I am happy to do that.

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