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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But Ms O'Leary did not seek to find the information between yesterday and today.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: However, Ms O'Leary had that meeting with Noel Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: A conference call.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Ms O'Leary knows what I mean. A conference call is a meeting. She had that. She reckons it was either Noel Kelly or the director general who advised her to put "consultancy fees" down but she did not question that or say they were not consultancy fees. During the conversation with Noel Kelly, he would have said to Ms O'Leary what the invoices were for.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: And what did he say they were for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: In the conversation Ms O'Leary had with Noel Kelly when he was seeking to have the invoices raised, what did he tell her the invoices were for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Now, come on, be truthful.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: What did he tell Ms O'Leary the invoices were for?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Ms O'Leary was having a conversation with Noel Kelly about raising invoices but she did not know what the invoices were for.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Seriously.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: So Ms O'Leary knew-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: She knew they were for top-up payments for Ryan Tubridy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But she still went ahead with them. She did not question anything. She was raising the invoices and putting them through accounts under the heading "consultancy fees", knowing full well they were top-up payments for Ryan Tubridy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Could I ask just one very short question?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: It is for Ms Mullooly in legal services. Does she have a view on any legal concerns raised owing to the creation of false invoices?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Is it something that could be presented as a criminal offence?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Could there be company law or tax law breaches?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: My question is to the commercial director. I want to take her back to year one of the tripartite agreement. She had negotiated with Renault to pay Ryan Tubridy €75,000. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: RTÉ then issued a credit note to Renault for €75,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: I am curious as to the logic in asking Renault to pay and then RTÉ to pay it back.

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