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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Can I have one short final question?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: My first question is for Mr. Collins. He was asked yesterday if he was aware of the problem with the invoices and he said no. About an hour later into the meeting the committee got the truth from him that he was actually aware of the issue in early March. He had previously said he was not aware of it before 17 March. He said that Deloitte had spoken to him, had flagged up concerns and was...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: When she said they were consultancy invoices relating to Noel Kelly-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Collins asked what those services were.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: What did she say?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Noel Kelly-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: -----was giving RTÉ advice.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: In what capacity?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Collins is being a bit vague.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: I just want Mr. Collins to explain that because Noel Kelly was advising RTÉ on how to deal with agents during Covid-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: And he was getting a €75,000 fee for that. What advice did he give?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Oh, right, so Mr. Collins did not ask-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Hold on, sorry.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: It is not Mr. Collins but I who am confused.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: No, it is myself who is confused. Mr. Collins is the chief finance officer and there are two payments of €75,000. Deloitte flagged concerns about these with him. He spoke to the director general and she said the payments related to Noel Kelly giving advice about agents during Covid. We will hear the detail on what exactly that entailed. Mr. Collins thought, "Okay, that is worth...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: So, what was the advice? What did Mr. Collins learn from the €150,000-worth that he thought-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: It was not value for money, then, if he cannot remember it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: How did Mr. Collins relay that to Deloitte?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: By email or-----

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