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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: So you were oblivious to it.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Oblivious to it as CFO. Okay. You were before the Committee of Public Accounts in January 2022 when the director general, Dee Forbes, stated to the members of the Oireachtas committee that the reduction in pay and salaries for the top earners had been achieved. Now we know that in Ryan Tubridy's case that was not correct, to say the least. You sat there and did not correct that as CFO....

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: You what?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: You did not know that this commercial deal was done with Ryan Tubridy. Is that what you are saying? You had no idea. That is not what you said a few minutes ago.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But you knew he was not being paid in jelly tots. You knew there was money being handed over, so you knew when those salary figures were published that, in Ryan Tubridy's case, that figure was not correct.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: And you sat there and said nothing.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: One final question.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: The person sitting beside you did not give you the information. Is that what you are saying? She concealed it from you.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: That is what you are saying.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: That is my word.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: It was concealed from you.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: She did not, so.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But this person beside you was involved in negotiating that deal, putting it through the barter account and everything else. The whole-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: It was not her job to brief you. Right, okay.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: One final question. On the 2017 and 2019 payments, Dee Forbes claimed that she never knew about the €120,000 payment, so who signed off on that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: There were payments of €50,000, €50,000 and €20,000.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: Who signed off on it?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: But who signed off on it? You would know, as chief financial officer, who signed off it.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: I asked who signed off on it.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Imelda Munster: We said to the chair of RTÉ and the chair of the board that when we invite these witnesses, we want the questions answered truthfully. The question is who signed off on that deal. Who knew about it?

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