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National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: He means we cannot have a sos.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: Can the Minister of State give an indicative time for the return of the principal Minister?

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: The Minister of State should text him.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: Please do not lecture us. We have attended faithfully and stayed here for many hours, so do not lecture us.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: I regret that the Minister has constrained the debate. On Committee Stage, the debate by agreement was moved to section 70, where the concept of value is explained at some length to allow a comprehensive debate on the issue. It is unfortunate that the Minister made the decision he made when the rest of the House was willing to debate it. It is an attempt to move the debate on and to get to...

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: The purpose of this amendment is to recognise the primacy of market value and the fact that the market value should be used. However, the Minister is relying on the long-term economic value, thus overpaying the banks for the assets by at least €7 billion and up to €14 billion. That is a fundamentally flawed decision on the part of the Minister and Fianna Fáil, and history will show...

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: The Deputy is listening too much to Fianna Fáil.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: They are two different things.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: They are different. Buying the assets at an overinflated price and selling them subsequently and making a profit is entirely different to overpaying for the assets. In circumstances where one would pay market value, that is all one would pay. If future moneys were invested in the bank, this would be on the basis of equity from which another return would be obtained. They are two connected...

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: At least that way we will not burn it and create extra CO2 emissions.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: Their assets are turkeys.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: It was about nationalising the losses and privatising the profits.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: What about Northern Rock?

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: The Deputy is not in a position to lecture us.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: The Deputy says there has been no nationalisation but what about Bradford and Bingley? The Deputy's facts are incorrect.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: Realism?

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: What does "the sellers of the land" mean?

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: Particularly after the Minister chewed a lot of garlic.

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: Is it possible to propose that the time allocated for this debate be extended to 10 p.m. because there are many Members who wish to contribute?

National Asset Management Agency Bill 2009: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage (5 Nov 2009)

Joan Burton: We are well aware of that.

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