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Committee on Children and Equality: Engagement with Children's Rights Alliance (19 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Will the representatives come back to us on the proposal? Have they had any interaction with the Government on it? We keep talking about this unit being set up. I imagine, if people are dealing with child poverty-----

Committee on Children and Equality: Engagement with Children's Rights Alliance (19 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Yes. Has the Children's Rights Alliance dealt with that idea of specialist help? What was the interaction like in that regard?

Committee on Children and Equality: Engagement with Children's Rights Alliance (19 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is the problem. Even if everything is put in, the pay-off will not be for ten or 15 years. It is sometimes about what does not happen.

Committee on Children and Equality: Engagement with Children's Rights Alliance (19 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: The importance and impact of housing and homelessness was referenced. We all get the idea of more resources being given to people. The fewer resources, the worse the decisions we make and the worse the decisions we can make. I assume it would be worthwhile to look at taking those in and-----

Committee on Children and Equality: Engagement with Children's Rights Alliance (19 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: We could make an executive decision here.

Committee on Children and Equality: Engagement with Children's Rights Alliance (19 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It is about actually making it happen. It is all well and good to have really good discussions. The witnesses have plainly put the idea of a specialist health nurse. I am not wrong in saying that a specialist nurse would be a triggering mechanism for a full intervention. We have not seen that go anywhere next or near to a proposal yet. The Children's Rights Alliance obviously does have a...

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: The witnesses are all very welcome. I will jump straight into children's specialist disability services. I accept what Mr. Gloster said in the sense that what people want to see and want to have are therapies and supports for their children. There is a particular issue. We had Cara and Mark Darmody here, and their fear is that we have not sweated the private sector sufficiently. They...

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is a fair bit actually.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: The big question I have is about the conversation the witnesses are having and this Cabinet sub-committee is having with regard to the best means of delivering assessments and then delivering therapies. I have always been a big believer in school therapies, but the witnesses are here answering to a degree with regard to what the CDNTs in particular are meant to offer.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: So, that is being done at the minute.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Would that change the nature of what the assessment of need is?

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: On the pay and numbers strategy, I just want to ensure we are filling all positions and that there are no suppressed positions. I will throw these other things out as well. Obviously, talking about adult services, the HSE relies on the likes of St. John of God. There seems to be an issue at the minute with regard to the capital assistance scheme, CAS, funding with which it would have been...

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I think there has been a change in the last couple of days. I agree with that.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Go raibh maith agat. We have all been talking for a long time about ensuring there is no wrong door and a single point of access, so the sooner we get it, the better. We have also always been talking about CAMHS in Scotland and that sort of idea. It is a bit frightening when someone said we still need an electronic referral system. I understand that IT systems in the State set-up have not...

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Which is obviously what we need. That makes complete sense. On some level, Mr. Gloster has dealt with a fair amount regarding therapies and assessments of need. It is about how we obtain the best bang for our buck. We all welcome the fact that those workforce planning pieces are being put in place, although they are not sufficient, it is not happening quickly enough and all the rest of...

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Yes.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I accept that everyone is coming from the one pool.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Faster, quicker, better is what we are looking for, given that we are starting from a bad place. The big issue is what conversations there have been about the best means of offering the service on the basis that we are not going to have all of these positions filled for a period. There is the issue of the use of assistive technologies. School-based therapies also have to be a huge part of it.

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is brilliant. I know from the case of our Toirleach that when my wife and I went, we would have got something on a piece of paper and so on. We might have had great plans as to how we were going to build it, but two weeks later, where was that piece of paper? I know some of that is on us, but if there was something app-based or on video, to a degree it would be that reminder piece...

Committee on Disability Matters: Progressing the Delivery of Disability Policy and Services: Discussion (Resumed) (18 Jun 2025)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: My comments will be brief. It was really positive what Mr. Gloster said. Whether we are talking about the All Stars inclusive clubs programme or the High Five boxing academy or, as I have seen myself, Louth Disability Cycling Club, where kids were given an ability to cycle when they could not have previously done it, these initiatives are really good. As a follow-on, sometimes it is very...

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