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Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: He knows.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: Where did the Senator get those figures?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: Is the Senator referring to new builds?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: That has nothing to do with the legislation.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: That is what Members asked for.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: I suggest the Senator look at his Committee Stage amendment.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: The Senator did not hold any in Kilkenny.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: I will attend it.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: They are on the way.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: I have said that already.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: They are all in favour of having good water quality in Kilkenny.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: They are not living in Connemara.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: We will have a debate in Carroll's in Knocktopher where the Senator lives. We have strayed a little from the amendment. I presume the Acting Chairman will give me latitude to stray a little also.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: The amendment proposes the removal of information from the register of details of prosecutions and that is what I am doing.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: The suggestion that offences be removed is ludicrous.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: I will deal with that issue. Fianna Fáil Senators should be aware of the penalties provided for in the 2007 Act which was brought forward by their party. The penalties are five years in prison and fines of up to €15 million-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: This legislation does not provide for imprisonment. The Senator is confusing it with the legislation brought forward by his party. Senator Byrne is operating on the basis that we should not comply with a court judgment. Ireland has lost a court case owing to the negligence of the previous Government to make a good case, with the exception of the Cavan model. Even with the best legal...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: Fianna Fáil is also against the introduction of provisions to protect groundwater, public health and the environment. That is the implication of what the Senators propose. They have a brass neck to even raise the issue. To be fair to Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív, he accepted on Committee Stage in the Dáil that it was necessary to provide for offences. I, therefore, suggest the Senators speak...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: Please allow me to read from A Renewed Programme for Government agreed between Fianna Fáil and the Green Party on 10 October 2009. Page 24 of that document reads: "We will introduce a scheme for the licensing and inspection of septic tanks and wastewater treatment systems."

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011 [Seanad Bill amended by the Dáil]: Report and Final Stages (1 Feb 2012)

Phil Hogan: Therefore, why is the party opposed to registration and inspection?

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