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Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: This motion to instruct committee is a rarely used procedure and is essentially a Second Stage speech. Will the Ceann Comhairle verify if this is the case?

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: Yes, but there are four proposals that the Minister has not spoken on before.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: A Cheann Comhairle, it is unfair to claim there is a time limit. You allowed this tight time limit which does not allow Members to read the amendments before they are taken or allow for the circulation of explanatory notes on them.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: Procedurally it is extremely inept to say the least as well as disrespectful.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: Is that it?

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: Will the Minister explain that?

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: I join Deputy Ring in registering my objection to the manner in which the Minister has decided to handle this legislation. Last week, we saw rushed legislation following from the budget. We expected to have an opportunity to debate this Bill, which has been considered in committee, and to take our time in dealing with it and give it adequate consideration. It is not acceptable to circulate...

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: What does the Minister mean?

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: There are three different schemes.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: That is fine. However, the legislation relates to the three schemes.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: According to that with which we have been presented, it relates to all three. The Minister stated that participants in the skills development and internship programme in the private sector will be disqualified from receiving social welfare payments. They will be paid, in a rather convoluted manner, via moneys channelled through FÁS. The placements relating to this programme will last for...

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: -----guidelines relating to the programme. I searched the website of the Department of Education and Skills earlier today and the guidelines I found are totally confusing and appear only to relate to people who are working in schools. What is proposed bears all the hallmarks of something that has been rushed and that was not thought through. We will pay a price for the latter in the future.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: On a point of order, perhaps the Minister would respond to issue of the status of people on placements. The Minister referred to 5,000 places. Does it not relate to all persons on placement?

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: It is an important point.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: On a point of order-----

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: Can the Minister confirm that the provisions relate to all work placement participants?

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Instruction to Committee (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: The existing work placement scheme is covered by this.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Order for Report Stage (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: I cannot hear the Acting Chairman and I cannot follow what he is saying. If he is proposing changes to legislation, which he seems to be doing, could the changes be circulated?

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Order for Report Stage (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: They are not corrections to amendments; they are corrections to legislation.

Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) (No. 2) Bill 2010: Order for Report Stage (14 Dec 2010)

Róisín Shortall: I again want to make the point that somebody calling out things in the House is no way to legislate. We are supposed to be circulated with proposals in writing. The Acting Chairman is referring to a Bill and he is reading something which we cannot hear.

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