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Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: No.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I move amendment No. 32: In page 46, line 8, after "ailment" to insert the following: "and there is an appropriate facility or service that could treat the individual.". This is to add in the phrase "and there is an appropriate facility or service that could treat the individual" which seems perfectly logical, practical and plain.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: This also relates, as I understand it, to the problem of people in acute beds and the fact they are seen as bed blockers. It is a question of the most appropriate place for them to go.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Not at the moment, but I reserve the right to put table it on Report Stage.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: It is the heat. We are all boiling in here. It is worse than a nursing home. At least, the television is not blaring.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I support both amendments. However, in deference to Senator Mullen, I like his amendment which spells out much. The amendment seeks to delete in page 50, lines 31 to 35, "(3) In performing its functions under paragraph (1)(ba) the Board may examine the records and accounts of an approved nursing home or of a nursing home the proprietor of which proposes to enter into arrangements under...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: While we should listen with respect to Senator Mary White because she has practical experience in the world of business, I am not sure that her argument regarding commercially sensitive information holds much water. We are considering issues of comparability and it is reasonable that when charges imposed by a particular nursing home are "materially in excess of the price at which long term...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: It is appropriate to examine these matters. Apart from anything else, this is State money.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I know; I am just saying it. The Minister of State is defending the provision, as it stands, and seems to be subject to a degree of criticism from all sides. I have no difficulty with the board examining the accounts; it would be a scandal if it did not do so. Can one imagine what would happen if the newspapers were to get hold of this and found there was ridiculous overcharging and that...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: We should consider going along with Senator Mullen's amendment.

Seanad: Domestic Violence (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I welcome the Minister of State. This matter concerns the Meath women's refuge and support services and the severe cutback in support made by the Government. I wish to give the context for this issue which concerns violence against women. The Minister of State, who is a cultivated, literate man from a cultivated, literate family will, I am sure, remember a very powerful work by Roddy Doyle...

Seanad: Domestic Violence (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I thank the Minister of State for his response which provides some, albeit very little, comfort. While I understand he spoke on behalf of the Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Harney, I welcome his acknowledgement that Meath women's refuge and support services provides a valuable service and enjoys an excellent reputation. However, as to his subsequent reference to fund-raising, it...

Seanad: Domestic Violence (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: This will eventually resolve itself into a question.

Seanad: Domestic Violence (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Not quite. I will put a question if the Leas-Chathaoirleach requires that little flourish. I ask that the Minister of State request the Minister to justify the ideological approach evident in the statement that "the HSE wishes to reorient its services to operate on an outreach approach". Are we honestly suggesting this should be the case? We are talking about women who are being battered...

Seanad: Domestic Violence (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I thank the Minister of State. To make a final point-----

Seanad: Domestic Violence (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: -----families are broken up only in the most exceptional circumstances. We are not breaking up families. I do not want to return to the days when people would not interfere in domestic disputes because they considered them a family matter. Women and children need to be protected from this type of damage.

Seanad: Order of Business (18 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Order of Business (18 Jun 2009)

David Norris: They can afford to pay €100 million though thanks to Deputy Michael Woods.

Seanad: Order of Business (18 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Order of Business (18 Jun 2009)

David Norris: More parish pump-----

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