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Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Fine Gael councillors in County Cavan, the Senator's colleagues, will not relish the prospect of a €250 fee instead of the €200 they currently pay.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The difficulty in County Cavan-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: -----is the extra thousands of euro it will cost each septic tank owner as a result of the new guidelines being brought in by the Minister. That is where the difficulty lies.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Minister is tinkering around the edges if he is talking about €50 or €200. We are proposing the amendment because we believe there should be no charges. There is a way of doing it. There is €431 million in the Minister's budget this year for the maintenance and servicing of urban wastewater treatment systems. Some of that money should be diverted to rural Ireland....

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: -----and put that money into the upgrading of septic tanks in rural Ireland to make sure that the ordinary people of this country who work hard in rural Ireland will not have to pay the costs of this draconian legislation.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Apart from County Cavan. The Senator should read the amendment.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Senator has not read it right.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Sin go díreach an pointe céanna a bhí mé féin ag dul a dhéanamh faoin treoir a bheidh ag teacht ó thaobh an creitéir a bheidh á leagadh síos ar gach dabhach séarachais nach cuid de scéim é ó thaobh na hoibre atá an Roinn a lorg chun an dabhach a thabhairt suas go dtí cibé caighdeán a leagfar síos. Cuireann sé iontas orm nach bhfuil na treoirlínte foilsithe agus nach...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Has the Senator so little faith in the councillors who voted for members of Fine Gael and Labour in Cavan that she believeS they would carry on regardless? It is unfair to those councillors. They may not have voted for me but I would have enough respect for them to acknowledge-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: They may not have. The point I are trying to make is a genuine one. I am not trying to be argumentative but I am trying to establish what maintenance standards will be established for septic tanks. Can I take it the Minister is scrapping the most recent 1999-2000 EPA maintenance standards and that he will look at something else that has not yet been drawn up? What are the maintenance standards?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: How are we expected to vote on something if we do not know what the criteria will be? The Bill provides that the Minister will take it in by regulation which would mean that after the Bill is passed the Minister will sign in by regulation, maintenance servicing and operating guidelines to be agreed, I assume, between the EPA and the Department of the Environment, Community and Local...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I will look after them as well, as I always do. There are 475,000 people with these systems and they will not all come to me, Senator Harte or other Members of the House. If they did, we would not be in here. The Irish Rural Dwellers Association has raised this as major fear. The IFA has also raised this as a fear and I had a long discussion with its environment committee chairman on this...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Perhaps he might clarify that. There is still an issue with hidden costs associated with making an application when we do not know what the application form is yet. We have the application available in the North of Ireland that must be filled in and sent to Northern Ireland Water. There is much to be filled in on that form, but the form we expect people to fill, if this Bill is passed,...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I move amendment No. 8: In page 5, to delete lines 7 and 8. Baineann an leasú seo le alt 70B(3)(d) den Bhille. Ta sé leagtha síos sa Bhille gur féidir aon eolas breise a chur leis an iarratas agus gan é a lua i reachtaíocht. Tá sé seo tromchúiseach ionas go mbaineann impleachtaí móra leis ó thaobh costais, mar a dúirt muid cheana. Beidh an EPA, an údarás áitiúil nó an...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: No. That is great. I welcome the fact that there will be no-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: No. It is excellent and I welcome it because the implication is-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: If the Minister is suggesting as much, I cannot understand why he will not agree to the amendment.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The amendment proposes-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Minister can explain his situation to Cavan but I have no wish to be in his shoes when he goes up there.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Minister might ring some of the Cavan Fine Gael councillors and ask them to reduce the fee from €200-----

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