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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Okay. Have we asked a question as to whether there was one?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: That will be important to establish how those transactions were made, such as whether they were done through an electronic fund transfer or whether a debit card was attached to that. If they could confirm that and come back to us, it would be really useful. I want to look to the future a little bit. The critical piece here is trying to establish the facts. I am not sure if we are any...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Okay. I am just conscious of time here.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Is it the case that that is an open piece of work? Is it ongoing?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: There has been a lot of backwards and forwards here. There has been finger pointing and "he said, she said" in terms of the evidence that was provided by Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Kelly and this is the case for the information we are getting here as well. From my perspective, it would be very useful to have everyone in the room at the same time. Is that something you would be open to in a...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Absolutely.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: We know what the problem is.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Absolutely. I will conclude with this comment and pick up on the point that Deputy Munster made earlier, which is that mistakes were made, mistakes were allowed to happen, and not in silos. It is important that people are not sidelined and they are not allowed to walk off into the sunset with golden handshakes. There has to be recourse.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

John Brady: There has to be accountability. Golden handshakes should not be allowed to be part of that exit strategy.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Good afternoon again to the witnesses and I thank them for staying with us. I want to start off with the tripartite agreement between Renault Ireland Limited, RTÉ and Ryan Tubridy. Was Mr. Kelly involved in the negotiations around the content of this agreement?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Was Mr. Kelly involved in the negotiations on it?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: There is very specific detail here in terms of dates. We know that, because of Covid, those dates were not honoured and then, subsequently, they were. Those dates were put in without any consultation with Mr. Kelly.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: So it is part of the overall-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Hence, there was a requirement for a signature on the back, and we know that signature was not forthcoming until April of this year.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: This contract was for one year and it was dated October 2020 to 31 December 2021. Am I right in saying that? It is on the front of it here. It is a tripartite agreement.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: I am talking specifically about this contract here.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: At the end of year one, was there renewed communication or renewed negotiations with regard to the continuation of years two, three, four and five?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: There was no comprehensive negotiation with a view to extending this particular one-year contract.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Sorry, I am talking specifically about the tripartite agreement.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

John Brady: Mr. Tubridy's contract is a five-year contract but in that contract there is not any reference to Renault. It does not make any reference to engagements or anything like that. I am talking specifically about the legal contract which was entered into by Mr. Kelly for Mr. Tubridy.

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