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Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: It still creates a charge.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I would like to register my delight at the Leas-Chathaoirleach's wonderfully Jesuitical justification. I shall remember it because it applies to every single amendment that has been excluded previously. In other words, as long as it comes within the global budget, no matter what it dislodges, it is not a charge on the Exchequer. I am extremely grateful for his instruction. I shall improve...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I support Senator Fitzgerald's amendment because sometimes it can be critical to have these assessments done quickly. As she said, many of these patients are highly dependent. There may be an urgency about it. Speaking professionally as a member of the NUJ, I worked as a journalist for a mass circulation newspaper for three and a half years and I found the fact that I had a deadline of...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I move amendment No. 6: In page 13, subsection (5), lines 5 to 7, to delete all words from and including "shall" in line 5 down to and including "Executive)" in line 7 and substitute the following: "shall be carried out by a multidisciplinary team (who may be employees of the Executive)". This deals with the multidisciplinary aspect of the assessment group, and assessment is at the core of...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: The Minister of State, although of very pleasant demeanour, is not giving very much to the Seanad. There was a slight chink that indicated she might consider some aspect of the principle. I am a little disposed to calling a vote but I will relent and leave the matter to Report Stage if the Minister of State can indicate she will consider some of the substance of what was said. For example,...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Part of the problem experienced by those of us who are pushing for a multidisciplinary approach is that this legislation, like most legislation generated by the Government, is not fundamentally rights based. Therefore, there is no automatic entitlement to anything. That underlines Senator Fitzgerald's point that the Government does not want to be tied in to automatic financial liability in...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: My point is absolutely on the amendment. It is a pre-emptive strike to save a little time. I anticipate what the Minister of State may say in part of her response, especially on the plea many of us have made for the inclusion of social workers as a category. It is quite astonishing that they should be left out in light of everything that has been said by Senator Fitzgerald who has...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Absolutely.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: We will return to the substance of some of these matters in later amendments. With regard to the multidisciplinary aspect, I am not aware of any occasion in the Bill where the phrase "multidisciplinary team" is employed. Perhaps the Minister of State will point to a passage where the term is used as I may have overlooked it. I note her skilful advisers are searching through the Bill. It...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I am aware of that. The Senator opposite engaged in an extensive flight of rhetoric about the issue. I am simply putting the matter in context in order that someone reading the record in subsequent years will not be misled. As far as I am aware, the older sections of St. Mary's Hospital, which are Dickensian, are still in use. Let us, therefore, not have a glowing view of the hospital,...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: If I may make a positive final comment, and this is a serious matter, I can recall a case in which I was involved where an elderly woman was living in conditions of considerable untidiness which I will not describe as squalor as they were not unclean. She had a serious problem with her eyesight and, eventually, with her co-operation I arranged for her to be hospitalised for a short time....

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Senator Mullen and I have highly developed feminine sides.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Not at this stage.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I move amendment No. 15: In page 14, subsection (8), lines 3 to 5, to delete all words from and including "that" in line 3 down to and including "lifetime." in line 5 and substitute the following: "that it is likely the person will require care service for a period of not less than 30 consecutive days or periods in the aggregate amounting to not less than 30 days within a period of 12...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I am Tweedledum. The other old Prod is Tweedledee.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I welcome the Minister's response. I am not completely satisfied. I shall mull it over. I would like to address a point made by my colleague, Senator McFadden. She is dealing with the issue in a very humane manner and feels that people might be reassured by the prospect that an elderly relative would be catered for for the rest of his or her life. My understanding is that no such...

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: Will the Leas-Chathaoirleach explain that?

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: I would like to register a protest. This is a complete nonsense and the ruling is a bad one. I ask that the Leas-Chathaoirleach take back to the Cathaoirleach a demand from this House that the CPP be convened to discuss these rulings-----

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: -----which are blatantly absurd.

Seanad: Nursing Homes Support Scheme Bill 2008: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jun 2009)

David Norris: The Minister of State has made the effective and humane point that one must reflect and respect the wishes of the patient who may well believe there is something untoward going on or that matters are being disclosed that they do not wish the matron of the nursing home or administrator to know about. While that is an issue that must be considered, what is the position in respect of those who...