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Seanad: Order of Business (26 May 2009)

David Norris: The very thing that terrifies, as Mr. Michael O'Brien stated on television last night, is to be put in the same room as the agencies that abused them. Do not shame us.

Seanad: Order of Business (26 May 2009)

David Norris: Exactly.

Seanad: Order of Business (26 May 2009)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Order of Business (26 May 2009)

David Norris: And the Church is equal to every other institution.

Seanad: Order of Business (26 May 2009)

David Norris: The Leader did not reply to my contribution and I invite him through the Chair to do so. Last week, he gave me an absolute undertaking that he would raise this matter with the Government and, on that basis, I did not press the amendment the last time. I would like the Cathaoirleach, very respectfully, to allow the Leader to indicate whether he has spoken to the Government and whether the...

Seanad: Order of Business (26 May 2009)

David Norris: Not to me.

Seanad: Order of Business (26 May 2009)

David Norris: Yes. It will be put every day until I get a result. The Leader is letting down the very people who were abused.

Seanad: National Asset Management Agency: Statements (26 May 2009)

David Norris: I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Mansergh, despite the fact it is perfectly clear the action is elsewhere. The fact has already been referred to that there was an important committee meeting earlier today. Although I completely accept that the Minister of State is a highly intelligent and gifted contributor, both as a Senator and as a Minister of State, even though he is almost as...

Seanad: National Asset Management Agency: Statements (26 May 2009)

David Norris: -----the real action and decision making will be done by the Minister and advisers such as Dr. Peter Bacon. I was unable to attend this morning's meeting but I corresponded a little with Dr. Bacon. I asked him when the idea of setting up NAMA first arose. He said the report was submitted to the Minister on 20 March 2009. I mooted the idea of a somewhat similar agency, the national...

Seanad: National Asset Management Agency: Statements (26 May 2009)

David Norris: It is nearly up, but not quite.

Seanad: National Asset Management Agency: Statements (26 May 2009)

David Norris: We are not protecting the taxpayer. The Minister of State has given us no indication on the situation regarding the money. There has been a great number of tragedies and repossessions. The chief executive officer of Aer Arann, Pádraig Ó Céidigh, was on my radio programme on Newstalk at the weekend. He has a turnover of €100 million, and after all the money that has already been...

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: I will not say much regarding the House's upcoming debate, but I propose an amendment to the Order of Business so we can take up the matter of the exemption granted to the churches, which is morally unsustainable given the various reports. I will say more on that later. I am saddened by CORI's behaviour.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: I have often received excellent briefings from it and it has taken precisely the type of social position I would like to be embodied in the House's work. To find CORI callously stalling makes me wonder about the pleasure with which I will receive its briefings in future. All of the elements involved have made it a legal matter. This is what is costing money. I deprecate the...

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: Hear, hear.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: It does, because it puts them above the law. That is a privilege.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: That is a classic smear from you, you smug hypocrite.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: I object to my reputation being taken in that way. It is quite disgusting and repellent.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: You do it all the time in a sly kind of way, but you will not get away with it with me.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: I am not having my reputation sullied.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 May 2009)

David Norris: If the Cathaoirleach does not protect me I will protect myself.

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