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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank all members of the churches and the atheist organisations for being here this morning .

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome everyone to the meeting. This is the ninth session of the hearings of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Health and Children to discuss the implementation of the Government decision following the recent publication of the expert group report into matters relating to A, B and C v. Ireland. At each session up to and including this morning's, we heard thoughtful and considered...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Mr. David Manley from Family and Life.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Ms Breda O'Brien from the Iona Institute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Ms O'Brien. We will now proceed to 60 minutes of questions from members of the committee, beginning with Deputy Billy Kelleher.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: There can be no point of order.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: As the Senator knows, throughout these proceedings each group is given an allocated time in which to make its presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: To clarify, the time limit for each group is seven minutes. In fact, that allocation was exceeded, and I was generous on that point given what happened with Ms Simons's microphone. The Chair is fair to all members and witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: As the Senator is aware from proceedings in the course of these deliberations, witnesses, be it in groups of one or two, are given ample opportunity to participate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: It is not a question of my judgment. The committee has agreed on rules and regulations for the conduct of these hearings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Senator. I now call Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will not have questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We discussed that in our opening session this morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: As 20 minutes remain in this slot, I will allocate five four-minute segments. I invite Ms Simons to begin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I must request that one should not make reference to what the member is doing. That would not be fair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Sorry, can we address remarks through the Chair? We have had a very civilised debate for the past three days without going into criticism.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Briefly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (10 Jan 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Dr. Kiely and reiterate that we should not make reference to what members are doing. It is out of order.

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