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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: -----because of failures.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: We are not seeing them in the here and now and-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: How long has this been going on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: Parents have buried their children because the HSE has failed them.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: That is the reality. I will move on because, to be honest, the HSE officials are all sitting there saying we can see the effects of its plans, but everything is in the future. It is, "We are working on it. We are currently working on"-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: -----but nothing ever transpires in delivery for people.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: I want to touch back-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: Sorry, no. I have listened. If Mr. McCallion is telling me that it is in the here and now that the HSE has learned lessons-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: The issue of nursing home charges has been going on since 2019 when I first raised it with the HSE. Eventually, after much toing and froing, the executive stated it had sent a communication to nursing homes advising them that people in receipt of medical cards were entitled to the items they would ordinarily be entitled to if they were living in the community. Charges had been applied by...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: It was flagged continuously by this committee that there was an issue with people being ripped off, not unlike the big scandal we are dealing with at present. We have had constant correspondence over and back. It was suggested by the assistant national director of the reimbursement scheme that that clause be put in and the officials cannot tell me about it. There was no follow-up. It was...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Health Service Executive - Financial Statements 2021 (Resumed)
(2 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: Can you actually-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Future Business Model Plans and Long-term Vision for the Media Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: I will ask my questions first and take the responses together. In her opening statement, Ms Brack said that she welcomes the establishment of the media commission and the appointment of commissioners to oversee the new regulatory framework. She said she hopes the outstanding concerns about fair and balanced reporting on Travellers, inclusion and accessibility will be dealt with. There is a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: I just want to follow up on some questions from my colleague Deputy Carthy on the Attorney General's report on Tuesday. It conveniently slotted the two issues into those in private nursing homes and those in public nursing homes but it made no mention of probably the most vulnerable in our society, that is, those in long-term residential care settings. It made no reference to them...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: I am sure Mr. Watt would be aware of that secret memo in 2011.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: He would have had sight of it, would he not? I am referring to the one that made reference to a potential liability of some €360 million at that stage. It had allocated the €20 million for the 500 people who did receive payments. That was an estimate at the time of what the potential liability was. Mr. Watt would be aware of that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Watt would be aware, as head of the Department, that there was a liability estimated at around €360 million based on the €20 million that was paid out.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: He would be fully across that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: He is aware of that. On how many people being affected was that estimate based?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Imelda Munster: How was Mr. Watt made aware of that memo? Did he request it? Was he furnished with it?

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