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Order of Business. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: The Minister of State at the Department of Finance, Deputy Parlon, when replying yesterday said it would have to be progressive.

Order of Business. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Is the Tánaiste saying it could be done?

Order of Business. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Is it coming Bill by Bill or will there be an over-arching Bill?

Order of Business. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Is there a Government Bill?

Order of Business. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Why will the Tánaiste not allow it to be provided for in individual Bills?

Order of Business. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Is the Deputy in?

Order of Business. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: She should get scrubbing.

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: It is happenstance that I am substituting for my colleague, Deputy Burton, but I am very interested in this matter. I support strongly the idea of devolving power away from the Executive regarding the affairs of the Oireachtas and handing the power over to the Oireachtas itself. However, the original Houses of the Oireachtas Commission Act 2003 is lacking in a number of areas and was not...

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: With the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission or the Minister for Finance's representative on the commission?

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Sorry, which is the answer?

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: For clarity, is the Minister of State saying the consultation took place with the Minister of State, Deputy Brian Lenihan?

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: I am sure he did.

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Is that appropriate for the future?

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: The last response of the Minister of State confused matters more. The statute says "on the recommendation of the Clerk of the appropriate House" whereas the Minister of State said the Taoiseach would act after consultation with the Chair of the appropriate House. It is a different thing.

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Will the Taoiseach act, as the statute says, on the recommendation of the Clerk? As I asked originally, is a recommendation binding or discretionary? It is a question which has been posed by others since. Why involve the Taoiseach? If we are serious about the separation of powers, why is the Oireachtas not master of its own destiny in the management of its senior staff? There is a difficulty...

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Senator O'Toole would not agree with that.

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: He says he represents the interests of the Independents, the Green Party and others.

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: Or he may not, it is totally discretionary to him.

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: That is very unsatisfactory.

Civil Service Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2004: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stage. (15 Jun 2005)

Brendan Howlin: The Minister of State said the Taoiseach may act.

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