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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Yes. Would it not be necessary then to reduce that timeline or-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Whelan most people are aware that it is 12 months?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: One would hope it is not a simple thing and they do consider it and maybe after the 11 months they feel there is no option. Either way, it needs to be timely.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: First.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Does GSOC have any complaints mechanism to deal with the Policing Authority or is it just An Garda Síochána? Does GSOC not involve itself with the Policing Authority? If a complaint were made, for instance, against a Commissioner or an assistant commissioner, GSOC does not deals with it and, therefore, the maladministration, as some would refer to it, of the Dublin riots would not...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: However, the presence of gardaí or anything to do with the administration of gardaí in a rota for that event has nothing to do with GSOC.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: That might be something we will have to look into separately with the Department of Justice. It was significant that 50% of the complaints were deemed to be inadmissible. Are there repercussions for complainants who make frivolous or vexatious complaints, because there certainly are for the Garda member? Whether it is found to be true or otherwise, it is a stressful time for the Garda...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: No, no. I asked about vexatious.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Six Garda members made untruths in a complaint.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: When would those 12 have been reported? Over what timeline? How far back would they date?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: It is a very small-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: -----weighting.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I understand. When we look at what level of complaints GSOC is handling and the staff, what impact is resourcing having on timelines and complaint tally?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: From start to finish.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Does GSOC do KPIs?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: As a general comment, does Mr. Whelan find the Garda co-operate with GSOC? If it does not, it would impact the timeline obviously, but is it the case that it does or does not co-operate?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: It is on the lower end of the scale. An incident came to my attention where a complaint was passed from GSOC to be investigated by the local Garda, where the garda who was put forward was not even mentioned in the complaint. To me, that is something that not only would hold up things but it is a complete mix up if a garda is being investigated who has not even been mentioned by the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Does it happen that a complainant comes to GSOC and says they do not know the garda’s name?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Do they have to know the garda’s name?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission (8 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: That was not the case here. It just happened. It was put to bed but it is not helpful. It warrants further investigation, particularly on behalf of the member having their name cleared. It should be a question of how she was identified if she was never named.

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