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Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What I find interesting is that Ms Kerins appears to have been a director of every company within the Rehab Group. Not only was she a director, she appears to have been the chairperson of those companies. She was chairman of the boards of the National Learning Network, Rehab Care and Rehab Enterprises. The one company of which she is not a director is the Rehab Group.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Mr. Poole, as a chartered accountant, is familiar with company law. Is it correct that one is required, under company law, to disclose the director's remuneration in the statutory accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is it not ironic that Ms Kerins is paid by the Rehab Group via management charges coming up from various companies, yet Rehab Group is the only company within the group of which she is not a director? How did this come about?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Whose salaries among top management, of the seven directors, including Ms Kerins, are paid from the Rehab Group, the parent company?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is that a management charge?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: How are the other directors paid? What is the source of that income?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Can the witness explain that pool?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What comes into the top entity? Will Mr. Poole take us through the sources of income? What is the name of the holding company?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the income of the Rehab Group? How much income does it take in per year? People see the Rehab Group as a consolidated group, but can Mr. Poole break down the turnover of that company per year and where that money comes from?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is any of the charitable lotteries fund allocated towards salaries?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Where does that money come from?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the total figure there?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is that basically the management charge?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: From where in the UK?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: Where does the balance of the moneys come from?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: How much comes from the Care Trust.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: And what was the rental income?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: We are still short. This amounts to €8.9 million, so we are short approximately €3.1 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: How is that allocated?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

Kieran O'Donnell: What is the total figure for salary payments from that parent company?

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