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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Does Mr. Fraser mean online views?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Are the metrics publicly available?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I return to the previous questions on the perception that some of the SCU material, particularly around the Project Ireland 2040 material, bordered on promoting particular candidates in particular areas. I fully accept that in the review that was carried out, Mr. Fraser stated there was no evidence that any direction was given to editors to place Senators and councillors into those...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Does Mr. Fraser believe them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I am just asking does Mr. Fraser believe them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I take it Mr. Fraser has no evidence of any political direction being given to those editors? Was that question ever asked as part of the review?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: There was a responsibility to answer the question. The accusation was that preference was given to certain political candidates of a political party in the advertorials. I presume that as part of the review, one of the questions to the editors would have been, "Was there any direction given to you, not just by the civil servants or the SCU, but in general?"

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: It is just that those three or four newspapers are in key constituencies for the party in government.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Is Mr. Fraser adamant there was no evidence of any interference, that it was completely an editorial decision and there was no pressure put on any of the editors from an external source?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: As for Mr. John Concannon, is Mr. Fraser aware correspondence to Mr. Brian Murphy, special adviser to the Taoiseach, stated that communications under the SCU would be deployed to support strategic Government priorities and decision-making under an overarching theme such as a republic of opportunity?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Is Mr. Fraser also aware-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Why was it not used?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Mr. Fraser can understand why people would then-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: It was not used. Whose decision was it in the end not to use it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: So Mr. Fraser would have-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I know it did not happen. So it was the civil servants, themselves, who said, "We're not using this."

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Okay. Did Mr. Fraser express that concern or articulate that view?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Brian Murphy stated that the cost of Government rebranding through the SCU could be enormous with a budget of €5 million for the purpose of streamlining Government communications. Does Mr. Fraser agree with that comment? What mechanisms were put in place to ensure that communications were not duplicated between the SCU and other Departments to avoid costs and unnecessary wastage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I return to the metrics and how we measure how successful the SCU was in terms of messaging. One of the purviews of the SCU is that it was not confined to Departments but also extended to the activities of what is referred to as "Government of Ireland". Given that these activities are so broad, it is almost impossible even to put a definition on "Government of Ireland". What metrics were...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 2 - Department of An Taoiseach
(3 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: What does Mr. Fraser mean by "survey the citizens as to what they think about the Government"?

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