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Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: There is no policy change this year on that. There is collaboration between the schools. It is something we need to explore very carefully between the special schools such that we get an understanding of what is within their schools. There is no policy change in that no child within a special school will have that place taken off them. That is the first thing. It is also important that...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: Going back to the Chairman's point about the teachers and then the redeployment that was there, it is very important that this redeployment scheme for the SNAs is proper. The Department, the NCSE and the Department are working with Fórsa. There is no point in losing a post in one part of the country and travelling 40 miles to the next post. That is not what we are looking at. We are...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: May I get Ms Mannion to talk about that technical point?

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: I agree with that. If we take it from the last point first, one of the pillars on the SNA workforce is diversity. We are very conscious of that issue in making sure there is diversity in the workforce. Going back to the initial comments the Senator made regarding his own school and the towns, we are looking very closely at that and where there is additional capacity being provided by the...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: The new circular is very much about the review. It is not good enough. We have seen a lot of the special classes and the practice in primary school where the children may be able to be integrated into mainstream for a number of hours in the day. In some of the schools I am familiar with there were children who started in special class but by the time they were leaving they were spending a...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: The task force has been set up in Dublin 15 and there has been huge engagement. I cannot overstate enough that the Department of education, the NCSE and ourselves are working week in, week out, and day in, day out, to make sure there will be places for everybody. Our aim for September, whether in Dublin 15 or any other part of the country, is to have a school place for everybody. As I...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: I was at a school gate this day last year and I met a parent whom I know extremely well. They did not know where their child was going in August 2024. I could not say how much it affected me as a public representative of a long time. I worked with them right through the summer and we did get a place. The day I got this job, I said, “That is my light. That is what is going to drive...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: We must ensure the best possible communications are in place. The circulars sent to the schools have been put out with a date but the vast majority of families of persons with additional needs do not know today that that date is out there. They do not know that date has been moved, even if we may know it as public representatives. We are going to do a huge pile of work from the middle of...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: I thank Senator Nelson Murray for that. I believe the school she was talking about is at 2b of the process within the Department but we will follow it up again and check it out. I take the point relating to management. The people in the management of special schools around the country are superhuman. They are special people capable of doing amazing work and we should pay tribute to the...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: The campus the Senator referred to is at stage 2b and is something we have a particular interest in. We have spoken about it at various levels within the Department. The minor works grant was given to schools earlier this year than previously but it is out there.

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: Yes, there is some money there. We are acutely aware of the challenges and we in the Department and the NCSE are working to ensure we have the best possible services out there. The need is also growing and we must be mindful of that.

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: I thank the Deputy for her questions. We get a lot of questions about Down's syndrome. We have met a number of families and organisations regarding Down's syndrome over the past five months. There is a fear that Down's syndrome is being forgotten about; I assure the Deputy that is not the case. There has been a huge increase in ASD and autism diagnosis, not just in Ireland but right...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: As I understand it, we are collecting data. On all of the policies, the best decisions that have been made in the Department and beyond are when we have data to support the decisions. We are looking at that because parents of children with Down's syndrome fear they are being forgotten. I assure the Deputy that is not the case. I assure her that we will continue to monitor it. I would...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: I might leave that to one side and we can come back to it.

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: We have committed that it will come out at the same time as the allocation for teachers. The two decisions on the teacher allocations and the SNA allocations will be given to the school authorities at the same time. That feeds into what we are hoping to do with better planning and giving greater certainty to schools and school communities. A lot of work has also been going on with the NCSE...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: I did visit the school and I was extremely impressed. When you go into schools that have special classes or are looking after additional needs, you can sense in 20 seconds the commitment that is there from the leadership of the school. I was impressed by the leadership of it. We will engage with the NCSE again. If it were possible, and not in a public forum, for the Deputy to give me the...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: The decision had been taken that they were not going ahead with that mild general learning class. It was something that spooked me in terms of how we go forward with that. I give a commitment that we will engage with the NCSE. If the Deputy passes on the family details too, I will see what we can do.

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: We had a great engagement on those numbers in the past week. The Minister made a commitment that we have been working extremely hard this week, last week and earlier. The commitment is that we will bring those figures to Cabinet in the disability committee in early July.

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: Earlier in the year we identified that we would have huge problems probably in Dublin and Cork, which were the two issues. We worked hard on it. From the meetings I have had today, I understand we have a pathway to try to accommodate everybody. It would be easy for me to say, but I do not have the percentages. I know it is well north of what was given last week, but I know we are working...

Committee on Education and Youth: Education for Children with Special Educational Needs: Minister of State at the Department of Education and Youth (25 Jun 2025)

Michael Moynihan: There are almost 100 new special classes being opened in Dublin this year alone. There is a huge amount of extra capacity for special needs. We are working right now to try with all arms of the State.

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