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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: If I thought Deputy Eugene Murphy was being malicious, I would have taken the head off him.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: Will we suspend?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: With regard to what Deputy Fitzmaurice said, the Limerick example is what I would hope will happen in Galway. There is a geographic issue in Galway. It is a huge county. Deputy Connolly mentioned this on Second Stage. The geographic area will not change much. The population is obviously changing. How do we ensure that we create a powerhouse on the west coast? I would see a united local...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: Well, the members are.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I only said it because a man gave a speech about pre-legislative scrutiny.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I will give a brief answer. I do not want to guess the cost. We know that the cost will be low. We do not know accounting costs or the cost of holding the plebiscite. In advance of the report, I will consider the costs concerning information and a methodology to ensure that it is in some way balanced.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I move amendment No. 105: In page 26, between lines 1 and 2, to insert the following: “Plebiscite 33.(1) The proposal shall be submitted to a plebiscite of the electors of the administrative area to which the proposal relates. (2) Each plebiscite shall be held on such day and at such times as the Minister shall, by order, appoint. (3) Each plebiscite shall be conducted in...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I move amendment No. 106: In page 26, between lines 1 and 2, to insert the following: “Regulations 34. (1) The Minister may make regulations for the purposes of this Part. (2) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (1), regulations under this section may make provision in relation to any one or more of the following: (a) the form of the ballot paper in respect of a...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I move amendment No. 107: In page 26, between lines 1 and 2, to insert the following: “Electoral offences 35.Articles 67, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 113, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119 and 123 of the Local Elections Regulations 1995 (S.I. No. 297 of 1995) shall apply and have effect in relation to a plebiscite as they apply and have effect in relation to...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I move amendment No. 108: In page 26, between lines 1 and 2, to insert the following: “Persons entitled to vote at a plebiscite 36.(1) Every person whose name is entered on the register of local government electors— (a) prepared under Part II of the Act of 1992, and (b) in force for the city of Cork for the purpose of the local elections in 2019 as specified in...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I move amendment No. 109: In page 26, between lines 1 and 2, to insert the following: “Report to Houses of Oireachtas 37.The Minister shall, in respect of each administrative area in respect of which a plebiscite is held in accordance with this Part and not later than 2 years from the day appointed under subsection (2)of section 33, prepare and submit to both Houses of the...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I move amendment No. 110: In page 26, between lines 1 and 2, to insert the following: “Costs of holding plebiscites 38.The costs incurred by a local authority in the holding of a plebiscite shall be borne by that local authority.”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I move amendment No. 111: In page 26, between lines 1 and 2, to insert the following: “PART 6 URBAN AREASInterpretation 39.(1) In this Part— “greater urban area” means— (a) an urban area, and (b) any part of the administrative area of a local authority designated under section 41by the urban area committee appointed for that urban area;...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: The eight urban areas are Athlone, Bray, Carlow, Carrick-on-Shannon, Drogheda, Limerick, Portarlington and Waterford.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: They are Athlone, Bray, Carlow, Carrick-on-Shannon, Drogheda, that place, Limerick, Portarlington and Waterford.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (5 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I did not.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I will try to answer the questions raised, many of which were asked by several members. Deputy Casey and others expressed regret that the amendments had been tabled late in the day. I am not criticising the committee, but they all flow from a report adopted by the Government six months ago which was sent to the committee. I have always said there should be two committees in this area....

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: The Deputy was not involved, but lots of my own were. It is a well flagged and genuine attempt to do something new to deal with the intractable boundaries problem. Let me give the final explanation as to how we arrived at this measure. Essentially, what we are asking is that the smaller local authority give up its power to produce a local area plan. In the case of Drogheda which was...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: I will try to be as quick as I can. Many fairly specific questions have been asked. I took all the notes last night. It was only when Deputy Ó Broin was going through his issues that I used a highlighter to highlight them. On the time issue, it is intended, as it has been all along, that these structures will come into place when the new councils are elected. With the best will in...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Dec 2018)

John Paul Phelan: The members of the committee will come proportionately from the two local electoral areas in question. It will not be up to the ruling groups on the council as a whole. It will be up to the local councillors who are elected in those areas. If these committees are to mean anything, they cannot have members from 40 miles away who do not represent the areas in question.

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