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Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: That is unusual for the Green Party.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: That is untrue.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: The Chair knows how untrue is Deputy Boyle's statement.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: Deputy Boyle should have the courage to stay and hear my answer. He is running out as usual. Typical of the Green Party.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: It is what Kofi Annan said at the conference in Nairobi.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: He knows something about the developed world.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: Happy birthday.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: There was agreement on that matter at last week's European Council meeting.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: The Deputy should not believe everything he reads in The Irish Times. I was a strong supporter of the move at the Council meeting. I did not read or write the article in The Irish Times.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: It used to be.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: Yes, and I will deal with that in my response.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: I thank Deputies for their many interesting contributions, some provocative and some grotesquely inaccurate. I will address the last point made by Deputy Eamon Ryan, since I nodded many times while he spoke. Several points can be made. The Nairobi conference was one of those life-changing events. It was in the right place because the impact of global change was all around. The cries from...

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: I agree with the Deputy saying "Not as our only response".

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: It is not Ireland's only response and the Deputy knows that as well as I. Two or three weeks after Kofi Annan's remarks, 600 scientists produced their report on climate change at a conference in Paris. They unequivocally placed on the record exactly where we are going on climate change. If there were any doubts about it, they were dispelled at that stage. Mr. Nicholas Stern spoke at that...

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: I am coming to that and will deal with it now. Last week, at the Council of Environment Ministers, I indicated that we would actively support the 20% target. In fact, I had indicated thus at the Nairobi conference, as the Deputy knows. I also indicated that we would actively support Europe's target of minus 30%, which should be the post-Kyoto target for the world. I accept the European...

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: Perhaps the Deputy could listen. Very few developed countries, particularly in the OECD, have grown by anything like 150% in that period.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: The Deputy is quite correct to say that they have all grown.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: Can he name one of the EU 15 whose economy has grown by 150%?

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: The Deputy has failed the test.

Carbon Fund Bill 2006: Second Stage (Resumed) (28 Feb 2007)

Dick Roche: That is the point I am getting to. That is a valid question as opposed to the sleight of hand we were getting from the Opposition side. There will be a burden-sharing agreement on that 20% basis. One does not simply take 20% or 30% and reduce the existing 13% plus figure by that much. If it is 20% it will bring us back to the 1990 figures. I can let the Deputy have the note on this...

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