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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Your time is up.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Your time is up.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Yes, but your time is up.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: The time is up.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Both your times are up.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: A chairde, both your times are up and we are now moving on to an Teachta McGreehan.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We are moving on to an Teachta McGreehan. If you do not stop, I will not have time-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: I am going to have to turn off your mics. I call on an Teachta McGreehan.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 1 - President's Establishment (Revised)
Vote 2 - Department of the Taoiseach (Revised)
Vote 3 - Office of the Attorney General (Revised)
Vote 4 - Central Statistics Office (Revised)
Vote 5 - Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (Revised)
Vote 6 - Office of the Chief State Solicitor (Revised)
(9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith agat, a Thaoisigh. We have to finish at 4.44 p.m. I will let an Teachta McGreehan in first the next time. I thank the Taoiseach and his officials for assisting the committee with our consideration of the Revised Estimates. Go raibh míle maith agaibh go léir. That concludes the select committee's business in public session for today. The select committee stands...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Message to Dáil (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: In accordance with Standing Order 102, the following message will be sent to the Clerk of the Dáil: The Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach has completed its consideration of the following Revised Estimates for public services for the service year ending 31 December 2025: Vote 1 - President's Establishment; Vote 2 -...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We have received apologies from Deputy Shay Brennan and Senator Alice-Mary Higgins. I advise members of the constitutional requirements that members must be physically present within the confines of the Leinster House complex in order to participate in public meetings. I will not permit members to participate where they are not adhering to this constitutional requirement. Therefore a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith agat. I call Deputy McGreehan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Before the Taoiseach answers, there is a vote at the moment, so I will see if a Seanadóir will step into my place or we could suspend.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: We will suspend for the vote and come back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Gabhaim buíochas leis an Seanadóir Byrne as a bheith mar Chathaoirleach Gníomhach. We had interrupted an Teachta Timmins due to a vote. He has three minutes left.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: What has politicised me is my view in terms of a united Ireland. When I talk to people about this I like to talk about the things that we agree with. I think the things that we agree on, in respect of the Taoiseach's response, is the concept of unity. For me, this is about a unity referendum. It is about having everybody involved in the conversation and that means people of all different...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: That is my view.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: The Taoiseach mentioned that there are issues that have not been engaged with and that is the case. To be honest, and it is important to be honest, without structured conversations on unity we kind of are ignoring the elephant in the room. It is contained within the Good Friday Agreement and it is something that has not been realised from the agreement. We need to move forward on a basis of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Go raibh maith agat, a Thaoiseach agus gach duine. I have been strict on time with other speakers and must also be strict on time with myself. Our next meeting is next Wednesday, 16 July, when we will commence in public session at 2.30 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Engagement with the Taoiseach (9 Jul 2025)

Mairéad Farrell: Is féidir linn bogadh ar aghaidh anois.  I am conscious of time and I want to keep our discussion within time and I will now ask a few questions. I am sure that the Taoiseach will agree that it is important to plan for the future for all of us in all our lives. That is particularly the case when setting out the course of what will happen in this country in the future. It is a...

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