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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Stability Programme Update: Discussion (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Can the escape clause be used on an individual member state basis-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Stability Programme Update: Discussion (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: That may also apply to some of my other questions. All these issues have become more important as the Government is legislating to lock away €6 billion each year. This is likely to mean that in the coming years the Government will have limited space to increase capital spending on the building of social and affordable homes above what is already accounted for in the base. Another...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Stability Programme Update: Discussion (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: -----or does it have to be collective?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: I will start with the Department of Finance. What is the projected spend on the defective blocks scheme out to 2030 or for the next number of years? Does Ms Gleeson have those figures with her?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: The Department of Finance would have to have them. Now I appreciate-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Could we get those figures? Could they be requested from the Department of public expenditure in order that we have those figures and know what the projected spend is out to 2030?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: What time of the year is it made?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: There are no figures for each year in the Department. I am not trying to be difficult; I am trying to get an overall picture of the financial planning out for the next five or six years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: There is nothing in the Department which indicates what the figure is, that it may vary slightly up or down depending on the number of applications but that this is the projection.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Does the Department have figures up to 2027 or 2028?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Would Mr. Rafferty be able to prepare a note for the committee on the information he has to hand in respect of the breakdown of the €2.2 billion, if that is what it is? Just the information that he has available. That would be really useful for the committee. I want to go to Mr. Rafferty’s statement and the untruth to the effect that the grant covers 100% of the work...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Yes. I do not know how much evidence we can supply to prove that this grant is not 100% or anywhere near 100%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: That is completely splitting hairs. The grant does not cover 100% of the work. That is a fact. If it did, I would not be here giving the case of a woman in her 50s parenting on her own in Westport. I could give Mr. Rafferty details of many more cases. Should homeowners in Mayo highlight for Mr. Rafferty a number of cases that will tell him that the grant does not cover 100% of the work?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Which February was it done in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Defective Concrete Blocks: Discussion (Resumed) (8 May 2024)

Rose Conway-Walsh: Is there anyone here in the room who was on the implementation steering group?

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