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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: These are civil contractors; they are not supplying farmers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Yes but a big problem will ensue there, and I mean no disrespect. Farmer Joe has a way leave gone through Irish Water for six to eight months and the reinstatement will be done in September. If I am working on my fertiliser spreadsheet, what I am allowed to use or what my targets are, and the contractor puts out a lot more, which it will because it has to try to grow grass and not go back...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Yes it happens-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: In my part of the country, there are smaller farms. There would be a small merchant perhaps selling 200 tonnes to 1,000 tonnes to farmers in an area. I am talking about a local shop in which you can buy a pair of boots, the dinner or get steaks. I am talking about a small operation in a rural area. What is the cost involved in an IT system for the likes of them, or is there any?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The Minister of State will know this himself, coming from a rural county. I am afraid the smaller operator will just get out of selling fertiliser and we are going to leave it to the big operators, again, if there is a big cost to those small shops that sell small amounts of fertiliser.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have concerns on Northern Ireland but I will let the others look after that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: General Scheme of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2022: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: First of all, I thank the witnesses for coming in. I have a few questions. In my opinion, there is a cult in media that does not understand what we are talking about. It was interesting to hear Mr. Neenan. I would know a good bit about bogs and I learned from him there. Did Growing Media Ireland respond to thejournal.ie? I saw this investigative journalist telling us about everything...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The usual stuff.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It is substitute consent.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: 2030 will nearly have landed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have one question to put back to Mr. Mahon. I am fairly familiar with this subject. The EU is good at saying responsibility lies in Ireland, and I am not defending anyone here, above all things. I was over there as well, however, and I was told it was the member states that decide this, that and the other. The people in Brussels are good at telling us this. One directive is causing all...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Did it print it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I have one question. Is it 15 ha at a certain height? I ask this because there will be white peat on top, then brown peat and finally black peat be reached. In some bogs, it could be 1 m down and in others it could be 2 m down. It works, however. What I am trying to put together is whether one bit will work for horticulture and the other bit will suit the mushroom growers?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: It is brus.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I ask the witnesses to tell me about the two different planning types. My understanding is that if 30 ha are hydrologically separated, basically with a deep drain around the land as far as the lough, that would mean those hectares would come under different working arrangements than a situation where 30 ha of land is stuck onto a neighbour's holding of 20 ha or 30 ha, or more, like a high...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Has anyone gone down this road?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: This was the under 30 ha path.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Impact of Peat Shortages on the Horticulture Industry: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Am I right in saying that the courts have ruled that if one person has 30 ha, another person has 60 ha and another individual has 40 ha beside it, that it is taken as a complex in one go?

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