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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: But there was nothing in writing.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: On that basis, why did Mr. O'Donnell feel the need to pay back the subsistence if he was categoric that he did not do it unilaterally and had the agreement of the former chair?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am sure they were.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Of course I would. I just wonder why it took so long and why it needed to be pointed out to someone in Mr. O'Donnell's position. Why did that need to be pointed out? These are basic rules relating to public office.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Those were different times, I agree-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: That was one error. There was an accumulation of errors that make IFI look like a basket case. For a start, there were uninsured vehicles, which I, as someone who operated as a haulier for years, find incredible, to be honest. It is a jailable offence. The other thing is the leasing of the cottage. Was Mr. O'Donnell aware of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: I know. Would Mr. O'Donnell take responsibility that there was a comedy of errors within IFI?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does Mr. O'Donnell take any responsibility for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: I just asked Mr. O'Donnell whether he as CEO would take any responsibility for all of those errors and he said "Why would I?"

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell would be happy that there is nobody claiming travel subsistence within the organisation but would have use of a fuel card categorically.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell would have already stated to employees that should not happen, given his own brush with subsistence and repaying money. There would probably have been a sit-down with everybody to say that IFI needs to have the height of good governance and conduct.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: That only-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: I do not want anyone confused about what a telematics system does.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. O'Donnell would cross-check-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: -----if there was any form of subsistence claim with fuel purchase. He cross-checks that all the time.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Ms Bradley would be happy to state categorically that there could be no cross between a claim for subsistence and use of the fuel cards.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is grand.

Proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of Ireland's participation in four European Defence Agency Projects: Motion (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Next, we have the Regional Group and Deputy Cathal Berry.

Proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of Ireland's participation in four European Defence Agency Projects: Motion (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: Excuse me, I need to put my glasses back on. For People Before Profit-Solidarity, I call on Deputy Boyd Barrett. Who would forget him?

Proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of Ireland's participation in four European Defence Agency Projects: Motion (6 Jul 2023)

Verona Murphy: For the Regional Group, I call Deputy Berry. Is the Deputy sharing time? He is down to share.

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